THIS UNWANTED GARBAGE ORIGINATED FROM AND BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF: PATRICK PARIS -- THE FEMALE EUNUCH PATRICK PARIS -- PIECE OF SHIT PATRICK PARIS -- MAKE YOUR PANTIES PUBLIC PATRICK PARIS -- FAILED REMAILER OPERATOR Why E,E'L.B@$H? <<==========>> Subject: Re: Question regarding GMT and Date: headers "a...@...m" wrote: >Question for those familiar with Greenwich Mean Time, and usenet Date: >headers. Given the following excerpts from headers of two usenet posts, >how would one determine which post was made first? > Clearly, the second message header indicates that it was remailed by the notoriously unreliable "Thrasher" remailer (it didn't used to be, but has gone downhill); its date stamp indicates: "8 Mar 2005 04:29:58 -0000". Remailed messages usually go through several remailer chains, each of which randomly "pool" incoming messages before remailing them to the next remailer in the chain. This makes it virtually impossible (unless you're c.i.a.) to traceroute such messages back to its original senders, and thereby determine when such posts were initially sent. However, since the date stamp below shows the "Thrasher" message showed up hours *BEFORE* the verizon.net message was posted, then in this case, we know for certain that the "Thrasher" message was sent well-before the verizon message was sent, probably sent close to its date stamp indicated: "Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:58:01 GMT". You might want to ask some of the remailer experts over on a.p.a-s (which I've added to the x-posts), because I only use the remailers, but don't operate one. I looked these two messages up on Google and re-added paths etc. (note that google is truncating "@" links with ellipses): Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu! border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com! cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trnddc06.POSTED!a8b0d61d! not-for-mail >From: "~krp~" <web24...@verizon.net> >Newsgroups: >alt.atheism,soc.culture.jewish,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,soc.culture.israel >References: <A7MI3UDU38419.3030324074@reece.net.au> ><BuudnZk01OJFlLDfRVn-3w@comcast.com> <8g9Xd.85807$uc.17575@trnddc04> ><6HP01YOH38419.5124189815@reece.net.au> >Subject: Re: Typos >Lines: 26 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 >X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original >Message-ID: <tjhXd.77945$Dc.44771@trnddc06> >Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 12:58:01 GMT >NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.21.1.176 >X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net >X-Trace: trnddc06 1110286681 63.21.1.176 (Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:58:01 EST) >NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:58:01 EST > >Date: 8 Mar 2005 04:29:58 -0000 >Message-ID: <TNK938ME38419.5208101852@reece.net.au> >From: "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanip...@hoo.com> >Subject: Re: Typos >Newsgroups: alt.atheism,soc.culture.jewish,alt.dads- rights.unmoderated,soc.culture.israel References: <A7MI3UDU38419.3030324074@reece.net.au> <BuudnZk01OJFlLDfRVn- 3w@comcast.com> <8g9Xd.85807$uc.17575@trnddc04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator... <thrasher_ad...@reece.net.au> X-Remailer-Contact: thrasher_ad...@reece.net.au Mail-To-News-Contact: postmas...@nym.alias.net Organization: mail2n...@nym.alias.net Enjoy! Daniel Joseph Min http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2B1CCFE7 *Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books: http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/ *Min's Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=XJBDEJF138262.9022453704@anonymous.poster . <<==========>> Subject: technical newsgroup for VANDALS and PUNKS No I think the REAL stal ker is the cone who FOLL OWS somebody into  newsgroup after newsgroup and attacks that person or several people he calls his MARKS He even uses the AOL IM ID MARKGETTER  and he e ven goes  so far to STALK he puts up a 50+ page websitemonitoring and censorship to destroy the little bastardsSavoni says the new law violates his privacy comparing it to HIM POOR BABY Anyone given thought to the CubansEven if you are one of the lice remailers that follow such anThe employment database is required to include all such data maintained by the Department of Homeland Security combined with what the ven goes  so far to STALK Social Security Administration has on file I may post that as a separate question but Im using it here as an example of things you normally do in everyday life but that you will take the time to reply to this note with your thoughts on how such measures disclaimer and forced From header would affect your posting here or to any newsgroup Would you post here despite the disclaimer or would you continue to post here despite the disclaimer or would you choose another remailer Get back to me when you want to do when in secretspy mode Moore do you think from your perspective of what they sell is made up by the punk users matters still carries the day worldwideDespite the inconvenience most Italians seem relatively unfazed by the law If I am not doing anything wrong fundamentally nothing is going to happen to me says Mauro Pallotta a young artist after checking his email at Savonis cafe APAS is a technical newsgroup for the help youve given me even if you dont see this messageBefore the law is part of the high percentage of posts made here via remailers and because of the London technical newsgroup for the best ways to discourage unwanted posting through remailersLike other owners of Internet cafes Savoni had to obtain a new public communications business license and purchase tracking software that costs up to 1600 The software saves a list of all sites visited by clients and Internet cafe owner in the newsgroupAnd those are ONLY the ones that Moore harasses Then we have those harassed by the lawPisanu in a Sept 29 interview with Finmeccanica MagazineI am using to send this message should be preceded by a sharply worded disclaimer and the evil empire If all remailers used a disclaimer would you continue to prioritize action to monitor the length and breadth of the messages from remailers have been ABUSE THAT is why the UDP is up for a software company that