The relevant section is §97.119 Station identification. The call of the station must be used, "an indicator consisting of the call sign assigned to the control operator's station must be included after the call sign." However, I don't think the FCC prohibits one amateur from lending his equipment to another. So you could take the position that the station owner has lent his equipment to you, and during the loan, it is your station, so you only have to use your call sign. "KC4UAI" <kc4uai@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3b204dc0-3ea6-42ee-b4d5-0b82b131c299@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >... I use my assigned call sign to ID myself when operating my station, > but what if I'm operating a station that's not mine? Can I just > provide my call as identification or do I need to include the > station's call too?...

In article <Na6dnTfvQbhcMPzanZ2dnUVZ_sejnZ2d@comcast.com>, Geber <Geber@bitbucket.invalid> wrote: >The relevant section is §97.119 Station identification. The call of the >station must be used, "an indicator >consisting of the call sign assigned to the control operator's station must >be included after the call sign." As I read it, that paragraph (3) applies only when the operator's license class exceeds that of the station licensee... and most seem to feel that it's required only if you're transmitting beyond the privilege level allowed by the station license. >However, I don't think the FCC prohibits one amateur from lending his >equipment to another. So >you could take the position that the station owner has lent his equipment to >you, and during the loan, >it is your station, so you only have to use your call sign. That seems to be the usual convention. There seem to be several common practices, which I believe (speaking *not* as a lawyer) fall within the scope of what the FCC considers a reasonable interpretation of the rules: - Use your own station callsign (the "borrowing/lending equipment" concept). This makes you fully responsible for the transmission. - Use the station's own callsign, only. This seems to be legitimate if you're operating with the station owner's permission, and are transmitting within the privileges covered by the station's licensee or trustee (and your own, if you don't have a higher- privileged control operator present). This is a common approach used for transmitting at a club station... you use the club station ID. - Use the station's callsign, slash, your own callsign. You'd do this if you want to actually ID the location you're transmitting from (e.g. a club station or that of a friend), but you're transmitting on frequencies which are allowed by your own operator class but not by the station licensee's class. -- Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

In article <dc263a4d-1968-4579-b1d1-0944eef37c35@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, KC4UAI <kc4uai@gmail.com> wrote: >I understand that there is a convention born of convenience when SSB >was just getting started. Apparently it was easier to build multi- >band rigs for SSB that did upper and lower side band on various bands >when this all got started but most of us don't build our rigs today. The story I heard is that this started because Collins radios had an IF of 9MHz and only needed one set of (expensive) sideband filters to have LSB below 9 and USB above. Mixing to get the final output: F1+F2 gives same sideband you start with, F1-F2 inverts. That's what I was told.

In article <e88b882f-91f7-4a23-b8af-b5f737ca736d@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, KC4UAI <kc4uai@gmail.com> wrote: >For identification I will: > >IF, I'm just operating the club station on my own and not >participating in an officially sanctioned club activity I will >identify with *both* calls, the club first followed by mine. That's fine. Perhaps overly-conservative, but it seems like a fine operating practice. >IF, I'm operating the station during an officially sanctioned club >event, I will identify with the club call only and log that I was the >control operator. That's safe, I think, *if* the club's trustee has a license class equal to or greater than yours. If not, then if you're transmitting in frequencies allowed by your privileges but not by the trustee's, then you *must* take the more-conservative approach of transmitting the club station's call, stroke, your own callsign. Otherwise, you'd end up with a situation in which listeners (possibly including the OOs or the FCC) would hear an ID in (e.g.) the Extra portion of the band, from a callsign belonging to a station which has (e.g.) only General privileges. That could result in a letter from Mr. Hollingsworth to the trustee, stating that the station had been transmitting outside of its license privileges and asking for copies of all of the logs, etc. That's the sort of situation best dealt with by prevention :-) -- Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org> AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

In article <4251758b-83fb-4f28-a207-2806bace20d9@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, <N2EY@aol.com> wrote: >On Dec 13, 8:27�pm, c28...@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) wrote: >and we got it back a little at a time over many years, with all sorts >of restrictions, until LORAN was finally phased out. LORAN is still active, at least according to the Coast Guard.

c28f62@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) wrote: > > LORAN is still active, at least according to the Coast Guard. LORAN "C" still exists* but LORAN "A" has been eliminated. It was LORAN A that used part of what we call the 160 meter band. * But just barely exists, at that. Take a look at a marine electronics catalog. The only LORAN-related product that I was able to find by searching an on-line catalog was a replacement antenna that was made by Shakespeare. You would think that the flat panel multifunction displays (depth, RADAR, fish finder, moving map, etc.) would have LORAN as an option, to back up GPS, but it appears to me that they do not. -- Klystron

In article <fjv0vq$vh6$1@victor.killfile.org>, c28f62@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) wrote: > In article > <4251758b-83fb-4f28-a207-2806bace20d9@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, > <N2EY@aol.com> wrote: > >On Dec 13, 8:27�pm, c28...@TheWorld.com (Mark Kramer) wrote: > >and we got it back a little at a time over many years, with all sorts > >of restrictions, until LORAN was finally phased out. > > LORAN is still active, at least according to the Coast Guard. You thinking of LORAN C which is 100Khz, not LORAN A which was 1800Khz to 2000Khz and was Phased Out in the 80's Bruce in alaska -- add <path> before @