"Reel McKoi" <pozerREMOVE@THIShotpop.net> wrote in message news:fc93kc$iur$1@news.albasani.net... > > > Well he jackbutted around town and there is no black hose anywhere to fit > the 1 1/2" outlet for the pump. The pump has a barb end the hose goes > over and clamps. He couldn't find any reducers that went from 1 1/2" to > 1". So he came home with nothing but clamps. Since he has to go into > Nashville on business today he's going to check out some of the stores > there. > > We'll have to get white or clear hose that quickly clogs with algae. > Maybe I can spray paint it black with that new spray paint for plastics > since that part will be above water. > -- > > RM.... > Frugal ponding since 1995. > rec.ponder since late 1996. > My Pond & Aquarium Pages: > http://tinyurl.com/9do58 > Zone 6. Middle TN USA > ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> While he is in Nashville, he should take the pump with him and go to a plumbing supply house. Someone there should be able to fix him up with an acceptable hose. George

"Reel McKoi" <pozerREMOVE@THIShotpop.net> wrote in message news:fcbed7$c3k$1@news.albasani.net... > > "George" <george@yourservice.com> wrote in message > news:fV%Fi.63554$Lu.22728@bignews8.bellsouth.net... >> >> While he is in Nashville, he should take the pump with him and go to a >> plumbing supply house. Someone there should be able to fix him up with >> an acceptable hose. > ========================= > That's where we're heading this morning. We don't need a hose, what we > need are some kind of adapters/reducers between the pump's 1 1/2" outlet > and the 1" hose we already have without putting back pressure on the new > pump. > -- > > RM.... > Frugal ponding since 1995. > rec.ponder since late 1996. > My Pond & Aquarium Pages: > http://tinyurl.com/9do58 > Zone 6. Middle TN USA > ~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> I'm sure a plumbing supply will have what you need, but keep in mind that anytime you reduce the diameter on the output side of your pump, you are going to induce back pressure. How much depends on how much you reduce the output diameter. Going from 1 1/2 inches to 1 inch reduces the output diameter by about 33 percent, increases the velocity of the water flow on the output side within the 1 inch section of hose while decreasing the volume of waterflow, which increases friction and pressure on the output hose, and thereby increases the back pressure on the pump. I'm not sure how much the back pressure will increase, but you could contact pondmaster and ask them how much back pressure to expect and if it will decrease the operating life of your pump, and, more importantly, if doing so will void the warranty. My guess is that it will decrease the operating life of the pump, but I'm not sure by how much. George

"Reel McKoi" <pozerREMOVE@THIShotpop.net> wrote in message > We'll have to get white or clear hose that quickly clogs with algae. > Maybe I can spray paint it black with that new spray paint for plastics > since that part will be above water. Krylon Fusion does wear off over time, and takes a full week to cure. if yer gonna do it, do it before the temps drop at night, because it also needs certain temps for curing. I took a kiddie pool, and painting it black with krylon fusion 3 years ago, and with the exception of some on the pain coming off, it's held up quite well. It's also been fish freindly as well. -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.)

"Reel McKoi" <pozerREMOVE@THIShotpop.net> wrote in message news:fccfue$c6e$2@news.albasani.net... > > "George" <george@yourservice.com> wrote in message > news:u0gGi.84598$pu2.49896@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> >> I'm sure a plumbing supply will have what you need, but keep in mind >> that anytime you reduce the diameter on the output side of your pump, >> you are going to induce back pressure. > > Not the way we finally did it. A 1 1/2" hose leaves the pump and goes > into a T of the same size. On each end of the T are 1" reducers.... so > that's two 1" reducers = 1 1/2" into 2" together. This should not put > back pressure on the pump. See my post above. > > How much depends on how much you reduce the >> output diameter. Going from 1 1/2 inches to 1 inch reduces the output >> diameter by about 33 percent, > > That's not what we did! The 1 1/2" outlet goes into a 1 1/2" T. After > it leaves the T it has two 1" hoses so the water is split two ways ... > not reduced to a one, one inch hose. > > increases the velocity of the water flow on >> the output side within the 1 inch section of hose while decreasing the >> volume of waterflow, which increases friction and pressure on the output >> hose, and thereby increases the back pressure on the pump. I'm not sure >> how much the back pressure will increase, but you could contact >> pondmaster and ask them how much back pressure to expect and if it will >> decrease the operating life of your pump, and, more importantly, if >> doing so will void the warranty. My guess is that it will decrease the >> operating life of the pump, but I'm not sure by how much. > > Sorry, I thought I explained the water would be split two ways - not > reduced from 1 1/2' to one, one 1" hose. There are TWO reducers.... not > one. > -- I didn't think of that. You're right, that'll work. George

In article <K5CdnXhL4cp_YHTbnZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Gareee©" <gareee-nospammy@charter.net> wrote: > "Reel McKoi" <pozerREMOVE@THIShotpop.net> wrote in message > > > We'll have to get white or clear hose that quickly clogs with algae. > > Maybe I can spray paint it black with that new spray paint for plastics > > since that part will be above water. > > Krylon Fusion does wear off over time, and takes a full week to cure. if yer > gonna do it, do it before the temps drop at night, because it also needs > certain temps for curing. > > I took a kiddie pool, and painting it black with krylon fusion 3 years ago, > and with the exception of some on the pain coming off, it's held up quite > well. > > It's also been fish freindly as well. For you car enthusiasts, Krylon Fusion also makes an excellent whitewall paint for tires. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space"

"Reel McKoi" <pozerREMOVE@THIShotpop.net> wrote in message > Ya know, I never thought to paint the kiddy pools with Fuse. I use those > black drop clothes which can be a real PIA. I'm going to use black fuse on > them next spring. Thanks for a great idea. Now is the perfect time to pick them up on clearance.. we bought 7 of the round 5 footers for 89 CENTS each! I used two, painted the top one with fusion, and its been a small additional pool in conjunction with the real pond. Since they can freeze solid over winter, it's a good idea to drain it when the cold weather hits...plus ya don't want any frogcicles trying to over winter in it... LOL! We just stored the extras under our shed, so the sun doesn't weather them. Good idea to wrap them un a tarp, spo they are clean and easy to paint when ya want to yank them out and use them. With the doubled pools, and the Fusion paint, we ended up with a $6 pond! -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.)

"Reel McKoi" <dorundayREMOVE@THISgmail.com> wrote > Any small frogs that got through the hardware cloth and net survived so > far. No frogcicles. :-))) The ice usually only lasts a few days. Many frogs hibernate in the winter after burrowing into the mud at the bottom of ponds. Their metabolism slows to a crawl and they seem to make it through the winter just fine. Wood frogs have a built-in glucose antifreeze that permits them keep their innards unfrozen while the rest of the amphibian freezes solid. It revives when it warms up. Of all the pond life, frogs seem to get by the best without any help from us. Michael New Orleans, Louisiana USA fermanis@REMOVEsprynet.com ================================================================

"Reel McKoi" <dorundayREMOVE@THISgmail.com> wrote in message news:fcfbmt$qk8$1@news.albasani.net... > > "Gareee©" <gareee-nospammy@charter.net> wrote in message > news:l5adnULOgu_DZXfbnZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >> Now is the perfect time to pick them up on clearance.. we bought 7 of the >> round 5 footers for 89 CENTS each! I used two, painted the top one with >> fusion, and its been a small additional pool in conjunction with the real >> pond. > > Where did you find them for .89? By mid-summer here there are no more to > be found. I always get mine in the spring before they're all gone. You > really lucked out! The Wal-mart here had a stack of them, and we got them in late october. They were marked $1.00, but rang up even cheaper! -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.)

"MLF" <fermanis@sprynet.com> wrote in message > Many frogs hibernate in the winter after burrowing into the mud at the > bottom of ponds. Their metabolism slows to a crawl and they seem to make > it through the winter just fine. Wood frogs have a built-in glucose > antifreeze that permits them keep their innards unfrozen while the rest of > the amphibian freezes solid. It revives when it warms up. > > Of all the pond life, frogs seem to get by the best without any help from > us. Tell that to the frogcicles I removed.. ;) -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.)

"Gareee©" <gareee-nospammy@charter.net> wrote > Tell that to the frogcicles I removed.. ;) Perhaps they were confused and thought they were Wood frogs. But they tweren't. Michael New Orleans, Louisiana USA fermanis@REMOVEsprynet.com ================================================================

"MLF" <fermanis@sprynet.com> wrote in message news:fchk7h$iqe$1@news.datemas.de... > > "Gareee©" <gareee-nospammy@charter.net> wrote >> Tell that to the frogcicles I removed.. ;) > > > Perhaps they were confused and thought they were Wood frogs. But they > tweren't. LOL! Thing is, ya poke a stick up their butt, lick em, and they JUST ain't that tasty! ;) -- Gareee (Gary Tabar Jr.)