"Hal" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:vmqqd3tnaan1275ss010dtnp5odi3dcf98@4ax.com... > On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:40:42 CST, "Bill Stock" <me7@privacy.net> > wrote: > >>So I was considering using some 4" timbers held in place with rebar. I >>would >>then wrap the liner over the timber and nail a strip on top of the timber >>to >>hold the liner. But I thought this might put too much pressure on the >>liner. >>I could still cover the timber with my capstones if my construction >>supervisor objected. The timbers are PT BTW, but they would be outside of >>the liner and I would use some fish safe wood for my nailing strip. I also >>thought I might attach my lights to the top of the wood. > > I had a pond built of PT lawn timbers and EPDM liner that lasted 8 or > 10 years. It was well constructed, but settled. I jacked it up and > re-leveled it a couple times, but it continued to leak in the corners > and in lesser amounts that I couldn't see until I took the timbers out > and replaced them with retaining wall stones. I prefer stone and > concrete in future construction. Removing The lag screwed wood frame > pond wasn't as easy as building it. > -- > Hal Middle Georgia, Zone 8 > http://tinyurl.com/2fxzcb Yeah, I took out my old retaining wall (only 2 high) recently and I never did get all the rebar out. I had to slice it up and take it out piece by piece. Thanks for the insight, I'm kinda leaning away from the wood frame due to the extra work. It would not be square (6 or 7 sides), so I'd have to make several lap joints to get the support I want with one row of timber. At the rate I'm progressing with my clay, it will be Decemeber before I'm done digging.

<dr-solo@wi.rr.com> wrote in message news:46dd522c$0$1340$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com... > my current pond is built that way. dont cut any liner at first. fill > the pond let it sit a few days, walk in it. then nail the sucker > down. worked for us. http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/2000/p2000.htm > we used permalon with this pond. Ingrid Thanks, I was looking at your pictures recently for ideas on the waterfall (FastFalls).