Panel 18 -- Climbing GIFs TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain: 18/ Climbing GIFs 19/ 20/ Weather 21/ Climbing glossary 22/ Song 23/ 24/ 25/ 26/ Climbing Humor 27/ Legal issues 28/ Alternative ways to read rec.climbing 1/ DISCLAIMER 2/ Previous topics 3/ Beginner's (climbing) post 4/ 5/ Access 6/ 7/ References 8/ 9/ 10/ 11/ 12/ Ratings and grades 13/ 14/ In memoriam 15/ 16/ 17/ Climbing GIFs Policy -- READ BEFORE GETTING IN TROUBLE GIF: Graphic Interchange Format. These are pictures which have been digitized and placed as files for people to grab. These cause problems: technical and administrative. 1) DO NOT POST GIFs to the group. a) Why? i) Special groups exist for posting pictures for instance alt.pictures.binaries, etc. (13 or more groups) These groups are optional at some sites. If you don't get them, maybe your work doesn't want you to get them. Change work policies. If you really want them, ask some one with access to email them to you. See iv) before first. ii) Some organizations/companies have expressed rules about news and non-worked oriented groups. Sending pictures gets those people in trouble if your article should fill their file systems. This includes people who do not even read the group. iii) Some GIFs violate copyright laws. No comment about where GIFs come from. iv) Technical problems: GIFs tend to be BIG, not Terabytes but big for networks. Underlying transport systems occasionally have message limits like 1000 lines or 100KB. Because of the diversity of mail, news, and file transfer mechanisms, you can't make a hard and fast rule. Someone might recompile a number just for his host. A BIG message (GIF) can cause thrashing due to size or a noisy line [computers trying mindlessly to get the GIF thru]. This is irksome. And it has gotten people in trouble. 2) Okay so what CAN I do? If you are lucky, you might have anonymous FTP access. This is interactive file transfer. At this time it is largely unrestricted and costs nothing. But in the future there might be tariffs. There is no expressed policy so if the following machines move or drop from the net, this message might mean nothing. You have to let the poster know. This is an automated message. 3) How do I translate GIFs? See the weekly comp.graphics FAQ for a location of the source code nearest you. 4) Okay, okay, enough already with the BS; where are the GIFs? Name: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/multimedia/images Directory: graphics/gif alphabetical subdirectories (i.e. j/jtree1) etc: NOTE: There are more than the listing below, check the current index files on the ftp server for more info, look for the keyword climb [Tim is Tim Schneider, a reader/poster who wrote this] blkrose.gif Tim on Black Rose (8), Paradise Forks, Arizona '91 crevass.gif jumping Cowlitz Glacier, Mt. Ranier, Washington devils1.gif Catherine Destiville, El Matador (10b), Devil's Tower elcap1.gif Nose shot of El Capitan, Yosemite National Park, CA goddard.gif Dale Goddard, Le Mission (8b), Bouix, France grepon1.gif Tim summiting on the Petit Grepon '92 grepon3.gif View of Cathedral Spire/Petit Grepon from Sky Pond '92 jtree1.gif Rudy Hoffmeister, Ocean Of Doubt (13b), Wilderness of Rock, JTree, CA lazyday.gif Greg climbing Lazy Day (7) at Joshua Tree in '92 mace.gif Picture of The Mace (from rappel side), Sedona, AZ pit1.gif Melissa, True Value (11), The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit2.gif Tim Maloney, The Joker (12+), White Wall, The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit3.gif Steve Petro, Shake Dog Shake (12c), Nose Rock, The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit4.gif Diedre, Mr. Slate (10+), Swiss Tower ,The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ rtrinity.gif Rob Fillmore on Right Trinity Crack (10), Overlook, Sedona, Arizona '88 tbparty.gif Tim climbing Birthday Party (7), Upper East Wall, Pinnacle Peak, AZ '90 thdston.gif Tim leading SW Corner (6+), The Headstone, Joshua Tree, CA '91 tonebell.gif Allen Simis, Tone of a Bell (9), Superstition Mountains, AZ tspect.gif Tim climbing Spectrum (7), Lost Bandana Wall, Phoenix, '90 vampire.gif Mike Law, Vampire Streak (19), Australia yaniro2.gif Tony Yaniro, Calypso (13b), City Of Rocks, ID zardoz.gif Greg climbing Zardoz (8) at Joshua Tree in '92 waugh1.gif Jim Waugh on Ma'adim (11c) at Windy Point, Mt. Lemmon herb1.gif T.M. Herbert on 5.9 friction pitch, Salathe Wall, Sept-Oct, 1962 karakorm.gif Shot of the Karakorum Mountain Range skinner11.gif Todd Skinner, Gunfighter (13b), Hueco, check out the hair and the natural pro !!!! kor1.gif Layton the Great, Gothic Pillar (V 5.10 A3), Black Canyon of the Gunnison, CO theedge.gif Darrell Hensel on The Edge (11b), Tahquitz Rock, California karn1.gif from 1991 calendar - jim karn on ja'taime in eldo banff1.gif " " " - barbara clemes on (12a), grotto cliff, banff, canada snow1.gif " " " - grand traverse, mt. ???, new zealand hueco1.gif " " " - fiona lloyd on malice in bucketland (9+), hueco tanks devils2.gif " " " - dude on bloodbath (12a), devil's tower robin3.gif " " " - robin e. on something at new river gorge (11d) sentinl2.gif snow shot of sentinel rock in yosemite. ice2.gif Perri Arens, The Fang, Provo Canyon, UT 1) 'archie.au' (actually called plaza.(something).edu.au) This site is a mirror of some of the files on 'wuarchive.wustl.edu' 2) 'katz.anu.edu.au' which is a collection of climbing related GIFs and JPEGs taken from 'wuarchive' and other sources. Iapetus.Slac.Stanford.Edu - accessable via anon FTP. The wustl images can be found in d:\pub\gifs\climbing; other climbing, mtn pics are available in the std d:\pub\gifs http://www.redpnt.com/redpnt/sharpend/ Additional sites might appear or disappear. 5) When? [We will see who gets this far.] It is generally a courtesy to avoid ftp-ing GIFs during prime time hours of a day. This means remote host time NOT local time. FTP on weekends if you want to be safe (but then you have to give up a day of climbing). Things are tough all over. 6) Why all this BS? Running nets has many problems. You can guess the majority of GIFs aren't climbing related. More of an erotic nature. Some of your fellow computer users attempt subverting the world by pirating disk space and placing GIFs on open machines. This irks the owners of those machines who find themselves popular all of a sudden. But that's another problem. Don't go dumping climbing GIFs on other people's machines. 7) At such time that topo GIFs are placed, there is no indication that such information is current, correct, or true. Climbing is an extremely hazardous activity (see panel 1). YOU USE A TOPO GIF AT YOUR OWN RISK (including the possibility of death). A topo GIF in the hands of a non-climber is potentially as hazardous as a loaded gun. -- .

Panel 18 -- Climbing GIFs TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain: 18/ Climbing GIFs 19/ 20/ Weather 21/ Climbing glossary 22/ Song 23/ 24/ 25/ 26/ Climbing Humor 27/ Legal issues 28/ Alternative ways to read rec.climbing 1/ DISCLAIMER 2/ Previous topics 3/ Beginner's (climbing) post 4/ 5/ Access 6/ 7/ References 8/ 9/ 10/ 11/ 12/ Ratings and grades 13/ 14/ In memoriam 15/ 16/ 17/ Climbing GIFs Policy -- READ BEFORE GETTING IN TROUBLE GIF: Graphic Interchange Format. These are pictures which have been digitized and placed as files for people to grab. These cause problems: technical and administrative. 1) DO NOT POST GIFs to the group. a) Why? i) Special groups exist for posting pictures for instance alt.pictures.binaries, etc. (13 or more groups) These groups are optional at some sites. If you don't get them, maybe your work doesn't want you to get them. Change work policies. If you really want them, ask some one with access to email them to you. See iv) before first. ii) Some organizations/companies have expressed rules about news and non-worked oriented groups. Sending pictures gets those people in trouble if your article should fill their file systems. This includes people who do not even read the group. iii) Some GIFs violate copyright laws. No comment about where GIFs come from. iv) Technical problems: GIFs tend to be BIG, not Terabytes but big for networks. Underlying transport systems occasionally have message limits like 1000 lines or 100KB. Because of the diversity of mail, news, and file transfer mechanisms, you can't make a hard and fast rule. Someone might recompile a number just for his host. A BIG message (GIF) can cause thrashing due to size or a noisy line [computers trying mindlessly to get the GIF thru]. This is irksome. And it has gotten people in trouble. 2) Okay so what CAN I do? If you are lucky, you might have anonymous FTP access. This is interactive file transfer. At this time it is largely unrestricted and costs nothing. But in the future there might be tariffs. There is no expressed policy so if the following machines move or drop from the net, this message might mean nothing. You have to let the poster know. This is an automated message. 3) How do I translate GIFs? See the weekly comp.graphics FAQ for a location of the source code nearest you. 4) Okay, okay, enough already with the BS; where are the GIFs? Name: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/multimedia/images Directory: graphics/gif alphabetical subdirectories (i.e. j/jtree1) etc: NOTE: There are more than the listing below, check the current index files on the ftp server for more info, look for the keyword climb [Tim is Tim Schneider, a reader/poster who wrote this] blkrose.gif Tim on Black Rose (8), Paradise Forks, Arizona '91 crevass.gif jumping Cowlitz Glacier, Mt. Ranier, Washington devils1.gif Catherine Destiville, El Matador (10b), Devil's Tower elcap1.gif Nose shot of El Capitan, Yosemite National Park, CA goddard.gif Dale Goddard, Le Mission (8b), Bouix, France grepon1.gif Tim summiting on the Petit Grepon '92 grepon3.gif View of Cathedral Spire/Petit Grepon from Sky Pond '92 jtree1.gif Rudy Hoffmeister, Ocean Of Doubt (13b), Wilderness of Rock, JTree, CA lazyday.gif Greg climbing Lazy Day (7) at Joshua Tree in '92 mace.gif Picture of The Mace (from rappel side), Sedona, AZ pit1.gif Melissa, True Value (11), The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit2.gif Tim Maloney, The Joker (12+), White Wall, The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit3.gif Steve Petro, Shake Dog Shake (12c), Nose Rock, The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit4.gif Diedre, Mr. Slate (10+), Swiss Tower ,The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ rtrinity.gif Rob Fillmore on Right Trinity Crack (10), Overlook, Sedona, Arizona '88 tbparty.gif Tim climbing Birthday Party (7), Upper East Wall, Pinnacle Peak, AZ '90 thdston.gif Tim leading SW Corner (6+), The Headstone, Joshua Tree, CA '91 tonebell.gif Allen Simis, Tone of a Bell (9), Superstition Mountains, AZ tspect.gif Tim climbing Spectrum (7), Lost Bandana Wall, Phoenix, '90 vampire.gif Mike Law, Vampire Streak (19), Australia yaniro2.gif Tony Yaniro, Calypso (13b), City Of Rocks, ID zardoz.gif Greg climbing Zardoz (8) at Joshua Tree in '92 waugh1.gif Jim Waugh on Ma'adim (11c) at Windy Point, Mt. Lemmon herb1.gif T.M. Herbert on 5.9 friction pitch, Salathe Wall, Sept-Oct, 1962 karakorm.gif Shot of the Karakorum Mountain Range skinner11.gif Todd Skinner, Gunfighter (13b), Hueco, check out the hair and the natural pro !!!! kor1.gif Layton the Great, Gothic Pillar (V 5.10 A3), Black Canyon of the Gunnison, CO theedge.gif Darrell Hensel on The Edge (11b), Tahquitz Rock, California karn1.gif from 1991 calendar - jim karn on ja'taime in eldo banff1.gif " " " - barbara clemes on (12a), grotto cliff, banff, canada snow1.gif " " " - grand traverse, mt. ???, new zealand hueco1.gif " " " - fiona lloyd on malice in bucketland (9+), hueco tanks devils2.gif " " " - dude on bloodbath (12a), devil's tower robin3.gif " " " - robin e. on something at new river gorge (11d) sentinl2.gif snow shot of sentinel rock in yosemite. ice2.gif Perri Arens, The Fang, Provo Canyon, UT 1) 'archie.au' (actually called plaza.(something).edu.au) This site is a mirror of some of the files on 'wuarchive.wustl.edu' 2) 'katz.anu.edu.au' which is a collection of climbing related GIFs and JPEGs taken from 'wuarchive' and other sources. Iapetus.Slac.Stanford.Edu - accessable via anon FTP. The wustl images can be found in d:\pub\gifs\climbing; other climbing, mtn pics are available in the std d:\pub\gifs http://www.redpnt.com/redpnt/sharpend/ Additional sites might appear or disappear. 5) When? [We will see who gets this far.] It is generally a courtesy to avoid ftp-ing GIFs during prime time hours of a day. This means remote host time NOT local time. FTP on weekends if you want to be safe (but then you have to give up a day of climbing). Things are tough all over. 6) Why all this BS? Running nets has many problems. You can guess the majority of GIFs aren't climbing related. More of an erotic nature. Some of your fellow computer users attempt subverting the world by pirating disk space and placing GIFs on open machines. This irks the owners of those machines who find themselves popular all of a sudden. But that's another problem. Don't go dumping climbing GIFs on other people's machines. 7) At such time that topo GIFs are placed, there is no indication that such information is current, correct, or true. Climbing is an extremely hazardous activity (see panel 1). YOU USE A TOPO GIF AT YOUR OWN RISK (including the possibility of death). A topo GIF in the hands of a non-climber is potentially as hazardous as a loaded gun. -- .

Panel 18 -- Climbing GIFs TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain: 18/ Climbing GIFs 19/ 20/ Weather 21/ Climbing glossary 22/ Song 23/ 24/ 25/ 26/ Climbing Humor 27/ Legal issues 28/ Alternative ways to read rec.climbing 1/ DISCLAIMER 2/ Previous topics 3/ Beginner's (climbing) post 4/ 5/ Access 6/ 7/ References 8/ 9/ 10/ 11/ 12/ Ratings and grades 13/ 14/ In memoriam 15/ 16/ 17/ Climbing GIFs Policy -- READ BEFORE GETTING IN TROUBLE GIF: Graphic Interchange Format. These are pictures which have been digitized and placed as files for people to grab. These cause problems: technical and administrative. 1) DO NOT POST GIFs to the group. a) Why? i) Special groups exist for posting pictures for instance alt.pictures.binaries, etc. (13 or more groups) These groups are optional at some sites. If you don't get them, maybe your work doesn't want you to get them. Change work policies. If you really want them, ask some one with access to email them to you. See iv) before first. ii) Some organizations/companies have expressed rules about news and non-worked oriented groups. Sending pictures gets those people in trouble if your article should fill their file systems. This includes people who do not even read the group. iii) Some GIFs violate copyright laws. No comment about where GIFs come from. iv) Technical problems: GIFs tend to be BIG, not Terabytes but big for networks. Underlying transport systems occasionally have message limits like 1000 lines or 100KB. Because of the diversity of mail, news, and file transfer mechanisms, you can't make a hard and fast rule. Someone might recompile a number just for his host. A BIG message (GIF) can cause thrashing due to size or a noisy line [computers trying mindlessly to get the GIF thru]. This is irksome. And it has gotten people in trouble. 2) Okay so what CAN I do? If you are lucky, you might have anonymous FTP access. This is interactive file transfer. At this time it is largely unrestricted and costs nothing. But in the future there might be tariffs. There is no expressed policy so if the following machines move or drop from the net, this message might mean nothing. You have to let the poster know. This is an automated message. 3) How do I translate GIFs? See the weekly comp.graphics FAQ for a location of the source code nearest you. 4) Okay, okay, enough already with the BS; where are the GIFs? Name: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/multimedia/images Directory: graphics/gif alphabetical subdirectories (i.e. j/jtree1) etc: NOTE: There are more than the listing below, check the current index files on the ftp server for more info, look for the keyword climb [Tim is Tim Schneider, a reader/poster who wrote this] blkrose.gif Tim on Black Rose (8), Paradise Forks, Arizona '91 crevass.gif jumping Cowlitz Glacier, Mt. Ranier, Washington devils1.gif Catherine Destiville, El Matador (10b), Devil's Tower elcap1.gif Nose shot of El Capitan, Yosemite National Park, CA goddard.gif Dale Goddard, Le Mission (8b), Bouix, France grepon1.gif Tim summiting on the Petit Grepon '92 grepon3.gif View of Cathedral Spire/Petit Grepon from Sky Pond '92 jtree1.gif Rudy Hoffmeister, Ocean Of Doubt (13b), Wilderness of Rock, JTree, CA lazyday.gif Greg climbing Lazy Day (7) at Joshua Tree in '92 mace.gif Picture of The Mace (from rappel side), Sedona, AZ pit1.gif Melissa, True Value (11), The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit2.gif Tim Maloney, The Joker (12+), White Wall, The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit3.gif Steve Petro, Shake Dog Shake (12c), Nose Rock, The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit4.gif Diedre, Mr. Slate (10+), Swiss Tower ,The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ rtrinity.gif Rob Fillmore on Right Trinity Crack (10), Overlook, Sedona, Arizona '88 tbparty.gif Tim climbing Birthday Party (7), Upper East Wall, Pinnacle Peak, AZ '90 thdston.gif Tim leading SW Corner (6+), The Headstone, Joshua Tree, CA '91 tonebell.gif Allen Simis, Tone of a Bell (9), Superstition Mountains, AZ tspect.gif Tim climbing Spectrum (7), Lost Bandana Wall, Phoenix, '90 vampire.gif Mike Law, Vampire Streak (19), Australia yaniro2.gif Tony Yaniro, Calypso (13b), City Of Rocks, ID zardoz.gif Greg climbing Zardoz (8) at Joshua Tree in '92 waugh1.gif Jim Waugh on Ma'adim (11c) at Windy Point, Mt. Lemmon herb1.gif T.M. Herbert on 5.9 friction pitch, Salathe Wall, Sept-Oct, 1962 karakorm.gif Shot of the Karakorum Mountain Range skinner11.gif Todd Skinner, Gunfighter (13b), Hueco, check out the hair and the natural pro !!!! kor1.gif Layton the Great, Gothic Pillar (V 5.10 A3), Black Canyon of the Gunnison, CO theedge.gif Darrell Hensel on The Edge (11b), Tahquitz Rock, California karn1.gif from 1991 calendar - jim karn on ja'taime in eldo banff1.gif " " " - barbara clemes on (12a), grotto cliff, banff, canada snow1.gif " " " - grand traverse, mt. ???, new zealand hueco1.gif " " " - fiona lloyd on malice in bucketland (9+), hueco tanks devils2.gif " " " - dude on bloodbath (12a), devil's tower robin3.gif " " " - robin e. on something at new river gorge (11d) sentinl2.gif snow shot of sentinel rock in yosemite. ice2.gif Perri Arens, The Fang, Provo Canyon, UT 1) 'archie.au' (actually called plaza.(something).edu.au) This site is a mirror of some of the files on 'wuarchive.wustl.edu' 2) 'katz.anu.edu.au' which is a collection of climbing related GIFs and JPEGs taken from 'wuarchive' and other sources. Iapetus.Slac.Stanford.Edu - accessable via anon FTP. The wustl images can be found in d:\pub\gifs\climbing; other climbing, mtn pics are available in the std d:\pub\gifs http://www.redpnt.com/redpnt/sharpend/ Additional sites might appear or disappear. 5) When? [We will see who gets this far.] It is generally a courtesy to avoid ftp-ing GIFs during prime time hours of a day. This means remote host time NOT local time. FTP on weekends if you want to be safe (but then you have to give up a day of climbing). Things are tough all over. 6) Why all this BS? Running nets has many problems. You can guess the majority of GIFs aren't climbing related. More of an erotic nature. Some of your fellow computer users attempt subverting the world by pirating disk space and placing GIFs on open machines. This irks the owners of those machines who find themselves popular all of a sudden. But that's another problem. Don't go dumping climbing GIFs on other people's machines. 7) At such time that topo GIFs are placed, there is no indication that such information is current, correct, or true. Climbing is an extremely hazardous activity (see panel 1). YOU USE A TOPO GIF AT YOUR OWN RISK (including the possibility of death). A topo GIF in the hands of a non-climber is potentially as hazardous as a loaded gun. -- .

Panel 18 -- Climbing GIFs TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain: 18/ Climbing GIFs 19/ 20/ Weather 21/ Climbing glossary 22/ Song 23/ 24/ 25/ 26/ Climbing Humor 27/ Legal issues 28/ Alternative ways to read rec.climbing 1/ DISCLAIMER 2/ Previous topics 3/ Beginner's (climbing) post 4/ 5/ Access 6/ 7/ References 8/ 9/ 10/ 11/ 12/ Ratings and grades 13/ 14/ In memoriam 15/ 16/ 17/ Climbing GIFs Policy -- READ BEFORE GETTING IN TROUBLE GIF: Graphic Interchange Format. These are pictures which have been digitized and placed as files for people to grab. These cause problems: technical and administrative. 1) DO NOT POST GIFs to the group. a) Why? i) Special groups exist for posting pictures for instance alt.pictures.binaries, etc. (13 or more groups) These groups are optional at some sites. If you don't get them, maybe your work doesn't want you to get them. Change work policies. If you really want them, ask some one with access to email them to you. See iv) before first. ii) Some organizations/companies have expressed rules about news and non-worked oriented groups. Sending pictures gets those people in trouble if your article should fill their file systems. This includes people who do not even read the group. iii) Some GIFs violate copyright laws. No comment about where GIFs come from. iv) Technical problems: GIFs tend to be BIG, not Terabytes but big for networks. Underlying transport systems occasionally have message limits like 1000 lines or 100KB. Because of the diversity of mail, news, and file transfer mechanisms, you can't make a hard and fast rule. Someone might recompile a number just for his host. A BIG message (GIF) can cause thrashing due to size or a noisy line [computers trying mindlessly to get the GIF thru]. This is irksome. And it has gotten people in trouble. 2) Okay so what CAN I do? If you are lucky, you might have anonymous FTP access. This is interactive file transfer. At this time it is largely unrestricted and costs nothing. But in the future there might be tariffs. There is no expressed policy so if the following machines move or drop from the net, this message might mean nothing. You have to let the poster know. This is an automated message. 3) How do I translate GIFs? See the weekly comp.graphics FAQ for a location of the source code nearest you. 4) Okay, okay, enough already with the BS; where are the GIFs? Name: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/multimedia/images Directory: graphics/gif alphabetical subdirectories (i.e. j/jtree1) etc: NOTE: There are more than the listing below, check the current index files on the ftp server for more info, look for the keyword climb [Tim is Tim Schneider, a reader/poster who wrote this] blkrose.gif Tim on Black Rose (8), Paradise Forks, Arizona '91 crevass.gif jumping Cowlitz Glacier, Mt. Ranier, Washington devils1.gif Catherine Destiville, El Matador (10b), Devil's Tower elcap1.gif Nose shot of El Capitan, Yosemite National Park, CA goddard.gif Dale Goddard, Le Mission (8b), Bouix, France grepon1.gif Tim summiting on the Petit Grepon '92 grepon3.gif View of Cathedral Spire/Petit Grepon from Sky Pond '92 jtree1.gif Rudy Hoffmeister, Ocean Of Doubt (13b), Wilderness of Rock, JTree, CA lazyday.gif Greg climbing Lazy Day (7) at Joshua Tree in '92 mace.gif Picture of The Mace (from rappel side), Sedona, AZ pit1.gif Melissa, True Value (11), The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit2.gif Tim Maloney, The Joker (12+), White Wall, The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit3.gif Steve Petro, Shake Dog Shake (12c), Nose Rock, The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ pit4.gif Diedre, Mr. Slate (10+), Swiss Tower ,The Pit, Flagstaff, AZ rtrinity.gif Rob Fillmore on Right Trinity Crack (10), Overlook, Sedona, Arizona '88 tbparty.gif Tim climbing Birthday Party (7), Upper East Wall, Pinnacle Peak, AZ '90 thdston.gif Tim leading SW Corner (6+), The Headstone, Joshua Tree, CA '91 tonebell.gif Allen Simis, Tone of a Bell (9), Superstition Mountains, AZ tspect.gif Tim climbing Spectrum (7), Lost Bandana Wall, Phoenix, '90 vampire.gif Mike Law, Vampire Streak (19), Australia yaniro2.gif Tony Yaniro, Calypso (13b), City Of Rocks, ID zardoz.gif Greg climbing Zardoz (8) at Joshua Tree in '92 waugh1.gif Jim Waugh on Ma'adim (11c) at Windy Point, Mt. Lemmon herb1.gif T.M. Herbert on 5.9 friction pitch, Salathe Wall, Sept-Oct, 1962 karakorm.gif Shot of the Karakorum Mountain Range skinner11.gif Todd Skinner, Gunfighter (13b), Hueco, check out the hair and the natural pro !!!! kor1.gif Layton the Great, Gothic Pillar (V 5.10 A3), Black Canyon of the Gunnison, CO theedge.gif Darrell Hensel on The Edge (11b), Tahquitz Rock, California karn1.gif from 1991 calendar - jim karn on ja'taime in eldo banff1.gif " " " - barbara clemes on (12a), grotto cliff, banff, canada snow1.gif " " " - grand traverse, mt. ???, new zealand hueco1.gif " " " - fiona lloyd on malice in bucketland (9+), hueco tanks devils2.gif " " " - dude on bloodbath (12a), devil's tower robin3.gif " " " - robin e. on something at new river gorge (11d) sentinl2.gif snow shot of sentinel rock in yosemite. ice2.gif Perri Arens, The Fang, Provo Canyon, UT 1) 'archie.au' (actually called plaza.(something).edu.au) This site is a mirror of some of the files on 'wuarchive.wustl.edu' 2) 'katz.anu.edu.au' which is a collection of climbing related GIFs and JPEGs taken from 'wuarchive' and other sources. Iapetus.Slac.Stanford.Edu - accessable via anon FTP. The wustl images can be found in d:\pub\gifs\climbing; other climbing, mtn pics are available in the std d:\pub\gifs http://www.redpnt.com/redpnt/sharpend/ Additional sites might appear or disappear. 5) When? [We will see who gets this far.] It is generally a courtesy to avoid ftp-ing GIFs during prime time hours of a day. This means remote host time NOT local time. FTP on weekends if you want to be safe (but then you have to give up a day of climbing). Things are tough all over. 6) Why all this BS? Running nets has many problems. You can guess the majority of GIFs aren't climbing related. More of an erotic nature. Some of your fellow computer users attempt subverting the world by pirating disk space and placing GIFs on open machines. This irks the owners of those machines who find themselves popular all of a sudden. But that's another problem. Don't go dumping climbing GIFs on other people's machines. 7) At such time that topo GIFs are placed, there is no indication that such information is current, correct, or true. Climbing is an extremely hazardous activity (see panel 1). YOU USE A TOPO GIF AT YOUR OWN RISK (including the possibility of death). A topo GIF in the hands of a non-climber is potentially as hazardous as a loaded gun. -- .