Group: comp.lang.python


Subject: [OT] Fractions on musical notation
From: Brian Victor
Date: 12/17/2007 1:04:51 AM
Gabriel Genellina wrote: > On 16 dic, 06:40, Lie <Lie.1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> [btw, off topic, in music, isn't 1/4 and 2/8 different? I'm not very >> keen of music though, so correct me if I'm wrong.] > As a time signature 1/4 has no sense Actually, I'm playing a show right now that has a one beat vamp. It's a single repeated measure in 1/4 time. To addres the real point, though, I don't think of a time signature as a rational number, although it correctly reflects what portion of a whole note can be found within a measure. I consider it to have two separate pieces of information: the length of the beat and the number of those beats per bar. When I've written code to represent music I have used rationals to represent when something occurs, but a different structure to represent time signatures. -- Brian

Subject: [OT] Fractions on musical notation
From: Neil Cerutti
Date: 12/17/2007 1:35:39 PM
On 2007-12-17, Gabriel Genellina <gagsl-py2@yahoo.com.ar> wrote: > On 16 dic, 06:40, Lie <Lie.1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> [btw, off topic, in music, isn't 1/4 and 2/8 different? I'm not very >> keen of music though, so correct me if I'm wrong.] > > As a time signature 1/4 has no sense, but 3/4 and 6/8 are > different things. In the standard musical notation both numbers > are written one above the other, and no "division" line is > used. Note that they just *look* like a fraction when written > in text form, like here, because it's not easy to write one > above the other. 3/4 is read as "three by four", not "three > quarters" -at least in my country- so there is even less > confussion. Time signatures are crap. They should have switched to a number over a note value a long time ago; we could have easily avoided abominable travesties like the time signature on the 2nd movement of Beethoven's 9th (B needed four over dotted quarter). If music notation had been invented by a computer scientist we wouldn't be stuck in the current mess in which 6/8 means two completely different meters (3 over quarter, or 2 over dotted quarter). And... er... Python doesn't need a time signature data type. But rationals would be quite nifty. ;-) -- Neil Cerutti

Subject: [OT] Fractions on musical notation
From: Terry Reedy
Date: 12/16/2007 10:32:35 PM
"Dan Upton" <upton@virginia.edu> wrote in message news:5504f9ac0712161822p76a87bc7h7b8b315e8a1e2968@mail.gmail.com... |> Since the US, at least, uses whole/half/quarter/eighth/sixteenth... | > notes, three-quarter and six-eight time falls out... | | I don't think this is technically true, but I've never been able to | tell the difference. I learned three-four, four-four, six-eight, etc. as time sigs. Not a fraction.

Subject: [OT] Fractions on musical notation
From: Terry Reedy
Date: 12/17/2007 2:05:11 PM
"Dan Upton" <upton@virginia.edu> wrote in message news:5504f9ac0712171041lbb0fd0bv296d31a7bb8e4126@mail.gmail.com... | > | > notes, three-quarter and six-eight time falls out... | > | | > | I don't think this is technically true, but I've never been able to | > | tell the difference. | > | > I learned three-four, four-four, six-eight, etc. as time sigs. Not a | > fraction. | > | | I can't tell whether you're agreeing with me or not... I disagreed with three-quarter rather than three-four and agreed with six-eight.