Subject: OH WHAT I KNOW FOR SURE
From: nadagami
Date: 11/23/2007 2:18:41 AM
Tu es comme tous les anglais : tu mens comme tu respires.
Subject: OH WHAT I KNOW FOR SURE
From: rhino
Date: 11/23/2007 8:45:13 PM
<robertpeffers@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ef01c11-0a96-4661-9548-c578ac663726@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> By writing about the politics of white privilege on Internet
> Newsgroups and listening to the people who responded to that writing.
> I have had to face one more way that privilege runs deep in my life,
> and it makes me uncomfortable. However, the discomfort tells me I am
> on the right track.
>
[snip]
What _I_ know for sure is that this is a word-for-word repeat of a post made
here several times before.
Want proof?
1. Go to Google Groups Advanced Search at
http://groups.google.ca/advanced_search?q=&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&.
2. Fill in the form as follows:
with the exact phrase: "politics of white privilege"
Return only messages from the group at this location: can.politics
3. Press the "Google Search" button near the top right hand corner of the
page.
You can see that there are several instances of the same post -
word-for-word, mind you! - although the title and the poster change. For
instance, the current post was also made by jlipka81@aol.com on May 15, 2006
with the title "More thoughts on White Privilege in Canada".
jlipka81@aol.com made the exact same post with the title "More thoughts on
White Privilege in Canada" on Mar 31, 2006.
rpeffers1....@aol.com posted the same post on Sept 23 this year with the
title "Canadians need to take racism, bigotry, and unearned societal
privilege seriously". And again on Jun 6 this year with the title "Canadians
should unite against bigotry and unearned societal privilege".
I suspect that if you keep going down the list, you will see that the exact
same diatribe has been posted umpteen times before under a variety of
different identities.
It seems _extremely_ unlikely that two (or more) different people came up
with the exact same words for a post of hundreds of words so I think it is
reasonable to assume that this post originated from a single source.
It is harder to say whether "jlipka" and "rfpeffers" and "auldbobpeffers"
are really different identities ("sock puppets") of one and the same person
although the similarily of the last two IDs is certainly suggestive. If they
are in fact, three distinct people, at least two of them are publishing the
work of the third without citation. Or maybe all three of them are
"stealing" the words of someone else altogether. It would be interesting to
know the original source of these words but the poster doesn't see fit to
identify them, suggesting that he is willing to publish the work of others
and take the "credit" for them. That's plagiarism of course.
Posting the same thing from supposedly different sources is an old trick to
create an illusion that the writer is just one part of a groundswell of
surging public opinion. It's simply a ploy to hide the fact that the writer
is a single lone crank, rather than the vanguard of an emerging social or
political movement. It's not a very honest tactic either, in my opinion.
--
Rhino
Subject: OH WHAT I KNOW FOR SURE
From: mich
Date: 11/24/2007 12:51:13 AM
<robertpeffers@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3ef01c11-0a96-4661-9548-c578ac663726@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> By writing about the politics of white privilege on Internet
> Newsgroups and listening to the people who responded to that writing.
> I have had to face one more way that privilege runs deep in my life,
> and it makes me uncomfortable. However, the discomfort tells me I am
> on the right track.
no, you really are an idiot.
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