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Subject: Liberals and Tories now tied nationally, but Liberals have a massive lead in vote rich Ontario
From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Date: 11/13/2007 3:02:23 PM
In article <1194963492.089709.279610@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
<robertpeffers@aol.com> wrote:
>POLLING THE COUNTRY: FEDERAL POLITICS POLL
>
>Tax cuts fail to lift Harper's fortunes
>Tories in dead heat with Liberals after mini-budget, saga of Mulroney-
>Schreiber
>BRIAN LAGHI
>
>OTTAWA BUREAU CHIEF
>
>November 13, 2007
>
>The $60-billion in tax cuts included in last month's mini-budget have
>failed to boost the federal Conservatives' electoral prospects, as a
>new poll shows the party falling back into a dead heat with the
>battered Liberals.
>
>The survey by the Strategic Counsel for The Globe and Mail/CTV News
>shows the two parties each with the support of 32 per cent of
>Canadians. The Conservatives had led the Liberals 34 per cent to 29
>per cent in a poll taken two weeks before the mini-budget, which
>included income-tax relief and a one-percentage-point cut to the GST.
>
>The poll also comes amid controversy surrounding former prime minister
>Brian Mulroney's relationship with German businessman Karlheinz
>Schreiber and a probe that Prime Minister Stephen Harper has called
>into the matter.
>
>Peter Donolo, a partner with the Strategic Counsel, said the poll's
>results are an example of a government's best-laid plans gone awry.
>
>"Two weeks ago, when they had their mini-budget, with billions and
>billions of tax cuts, they couldn't have imagined that the Canadian
>public would thank them by seeing their numbers drop," he said.
>
>"I think that the timing of the Mulroney affair couldn't be worse for
>the Conservatives. They had obviously stage-managed this plan, and
>less than two weeks later they're embroiled."
>
>He said the poll appears to confirm that the Liberals - not the NDP -
>are the natural beneficiaries when the Tories face political
>difficulties. According to the poll, the NDP dropped three points to
>12 per cent.
>
>The Greens are up one percentage point to 13, a virtual tie with the
>New Democrats.
>
>In the key battleground of Ontario, the gap between the Liberals and
>the Conservatives has widened, with the Liberals ahead of the Tories
>47 per cent to 29 per cent, compared with a previous gap of 40 to 33.
>The NDP and the Greens each polled 12 per cent in the province.
>
>In Quebec, the Bloc Québécois jumped five points to 42 per cent, while
>the Conservatives dropped three points to 23 per cent. The Liberals
>remained stable, gaining one point to 18 per cent.
>
>The Tories continue to dominate in the West, with 43 per cent
>supporting the Tories - up two percentage points - and 24 per cent
>backing the Liberals, who are down three percentage points. The NDP
>has dropped five points to 16 per cent, two points fewer than the
>Greens.
>
>The poll of 1,000 Canadians was conducted Nov. 8-11 and is accurate to
>within 3.1 percentage points 19 times out of 20.
>
>Polling expert Greg Lyle said Mr. Mulroney's policies on free trade
>and the GST, as well as his personality, have always played negatively
>in Ontario.
>
>"He still, to this day, carries a lot of baggage in Ontario," said Mr.
>Lyle, managing director of Innovative Research Group. "And more so
>than anywhere else in the country."
>
>Mr. Lyle added that, although Mr. Harper was probably right to
>distance himself from the former PM by calling the probe, the story
>may do damage as news coverage of the issue continues. Conservatives
>will have to carefully manage the Mulroney matter if they wish to
>retain the high ground on issues of ethics in government.
>
>The poll is also a warning to the NDP that it should position itself
>carefully, as its supporters are the most hostile anti-Harper voting
>group in Canada and inclined to move to the Liberals if they want to
>defeat the Conservatives.
>
>However, the poll wasn't all good news for the Liberals. The survey
>found that 36 per cent of Canadians would support a move to replace
>Stéphane Dion as Liberal Leader. By contrast, only 18 per cent would
>oppose such a move.
>
>Mr. Dion's party has been battered over the past few months by losses
>in three Quebec by-elections and criticized by its political opponents
>for allowing the passage of the Speech from the Throne.
>
>One bright spot for the Tories in the polls is the substantial support
>the public appears to have for Mr. Harper's backing of a referendum on
>the abolition of the Senate. Fully 49 per cent of Canadians support
>such a referendum, compared with 33 per cent of Canadians who oppose
>the idea. Another 46 per cent support the abolition of the upper
>chamber, compared with 37 per cent who oppose the idea.
>
>Dead even
>
>Do Canadians support or oppose holding a referendum on abolishing the
>Senate of Canada?
>
>Support: 49%
>
>Oppose: 33%
>
>Don't know: 18%
>
>Do Canadians support or oppose the abolishment of the Senate?
>
>Support: 46%
>
>Oppose: 37%
>
>Don't know: 17%
>
>Do Canadians support or oppose replacing Stéphane Dion as the Leader
>of the Liberal Party?
>
>Support: 36%
>
>Oppose: 18%
>
>Don't know: 14%
>
>Neither: 32%
>
>Who would Canadians want to become a new Liberal leader?*
>
>Justin Trudeau: 40%
>
>Michael Ignatieff: 25%
>
>Gerard Kennedy: 11%
>
>Bob Rae: 23%
>
>*Some totals do not add up to 100% due to rounding.
>
>SOURCE: THE STRATEGIC COUNSEL
>
>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071113.POLL13/TPStory/TPNational/Politics/
>
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