Group: ab.politics


Subject: Harper needs armed guards in Parliament....
From: ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
Date: 11/13/2007 1:18:42 AM
(K): We see this a whole lot every time a rightwing government gets into office and starts introducing very unpopular policies and utilizing ruthless methods to enforce them. In some provinces, they lock the doors of the central government buildings and the doors of their MPs and MLAs. In Harper's case, he's bringing in ARMED GUARDS just as Bush has had to do in the U.S. Bad government + bad policies = scared politicians. Do we put up with the guns in our Parliament, or do we just get rid of the bad government that needs them? _____________________________________ CanWest News Service; Ottawa Citizen - Monday, November 12, 2007 Armed guards in Parliament unsettle some MPs OTTAWA -- Several MPs are concerned about a new security measures in Parliament, including the previously unarmed House of Commons security service being issued with batons and the possibility that they may one day carry sidearms. The shift, including the presence of armed security constables in civilian clothing at all public entrances to buildings housing MPs within the parliamentary precinct, has been gradual under new Sergeant-at-Arms Kevin Vickers. The ramp-up has taken place with an increase of the profile of Canada's combat mission in Afghanistan, and following concerns over the past two years about weaknesses found in Parliament Hill security following the 2001 terrorist attacks in the U.S. As well, the arrest of a group of alleged terrorist plotters in Toronto last year heightened worries, since they had allegedly targeted Parliament Hill. Vickers, a retired RCMP officer, says there is no plan to arm the House of Commons security service. But, sources have said the possibility has been discussed, and is being held off because of the extra cost and training it would require. Several MPs said they would oppose sidearms for the uniformed guards because of the image it would create for thousands of tourists who stream through the Centre Block every year. NDP MP Yvon Godin said he has visited legislative assemblies in other countries where uniformed guards carry weapons and he felt it to be intimidating. "Parliament is a place where I want people to come in and feel like home," said Godin. "I don't want people to come in there and see people with guns." Godin and Liberal MP Garth Turner also were surprised to learn the guards, many of them new recruits who have entered the security service over the past year, now carry batons. "I don't know what the threat is," said Turner. "I don't understand, as a guy who works in these buildings all day like you, why we need people to protect us with sticks and guns." The only security-related incidents within the parliamentary buildings over the past decade have involved demonstrators who infiltrated the public galleries of the Commons to make vocal protests. However, even senior members of the security service have criticized the location of the main electronic screening centre for visitors - inside the Centre Block just under the Peace Tower. Liberal whip Karen Redman was also surprised at the trend. Redman is a member of the all-powerful Commons board of internal economy and said she had not heard of any plan to arm guards. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. - James Madison """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Subject: Harper needs armed guards in Parliament....
From: Canuck57
Date: 11/13/2007 1:55:31 AM
"Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:fhau1i$f3m$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > (K): We see this a whole lot every time a rightwing government gets into > office and starts introducing very unpopular policies and utilizing > ruthless > methods to enforce them. In some provinces, they lock the doors of the > central government buildings and the doors of their MPs and MLAs. You think Harper is right wing? I could swear he is neo left liberal. In fact, you could take the party policies of the Liberal and Conservatives and swap them, change Conservative to Liberal and visa versa, and 95% of Canadians reading it would not tell the difference between the to party polices. Identical twins have more differences. But Harper does know how to get away with a lie better than most.

Subject: Harper needs armed guards in Parliament....
From: The Right One
Date: 11/13/2007 5:29:54 AM
"dave" <tmr99@yahoo.name> wrote in message news:4e7_i.15994$8S5.13990@edtnps82... > Karen Gordon wrote: >> (K): We see this a whole lot every time a rightwing government gets into >> office and starts introducing very unpopular policies and utilizing >> ruthless >> methods to enforce them. In some provinces, they lock the doors of the >> central government buildings and the doors of their MPs and MLAs. >> >> In Harper's case, he's bringing in ARMED GUARDS just as Bush has had to >> do >> in the U.S. Bad government + bad policies = scared politicians. Do we >> put up with the guns in our Parliament, or do we just get rid of the bad >> government that needs them? > > It started with Adolf Hitler, except his body guards were called the brown > shirts, and got killed off when he decided to get a > paramilitary group, called the WAFFEN SS. > > After all, Hapless Harper is a student of Conservative history, > and he learned his lessons well. > Ahahahaahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa -- Terry Pearson Pro- Israel and proud of it http://www.therightpoint.ca Shaping Canada's Destiny ========================== The Dimwit now accuses me of plagiarizing my own material. He says he's backed up by his own intelligence. Ahaha -------------------------------------------- "I can walk upright" ~Peter White -------------------------------------------------- Penny On Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdt6wcK1cSQ ========================= The folks on Canadian politics are in unanimous agreement that Dumbski is an unemployed bum. ********************************************* Liberalism = Entitlement Culture= Corruption ------------------------------------------- There are some opinions so stupid, only socialists could hold them. ------------------------------------------- "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." - Thomas Jefferson --------------------------------------

Subject: Harper needs armed guards in Parliament....
From: mich
Date: 11/13/2007 1:28:24 PM
Karen Gordon wrote: > (K): We see this a whole lot every time a rightwing government gets into > office and starts introducing very unpopular policies and utilizing > ruthless > methods to enforce them. In some provinces, they lock the doors of the > central government buildings and the doors of their MPs and MLAs. > > In Harper's case, he's bringing in ARMED GUARDS just as Bush has had to do > in the U.S. Bad government + bad policies = scared politicians. Do we > put up with the guns in our Parliament, or do we just get rid of the bad > government that needs them? I say we just laugh at another one of KG's raving idiocies.