Group: ab.politics


Subject: Harper's death penalty decision ....
From: ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
Date: 11/13/2007 1:04:12 AM
(K): ..... is not sitting well with the majority of Canadians. One more nail in HARPER'S coffin..... ______________________ Canadian Press - November 12, 2007 Tory death penalty decision fails to thrill voters OTTAWA Most Canadians don't agree with the Tory government's decision to stop seeking clemency for any citizen facing the death penalty abroad, a new poll indicates. The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey found 50 per cent of respondents opposed the new policy, with 43 per cent in favour and the rest undecided. Those totals concealed a sharp division along party lines, with Conservatives backing the government by a healthy margin and supporters of all other parties strongly opposed. There were also splits along other lines, with younger, female and urban voters more likely to be against the government on the issue. Those are all voting segments that have also been disproportionately opposed to the Harper government's agenda on other issues. The results could present Prime Minister Stephen Harper with a political conundrum as he seeks to piece together a Tory majority government in the next election. [...] The poll was conducted within days of the announcement by Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day that the government would no longer seek clemency for Canadians sentenced to death in other countries at least not if they were convicted in a democratic country that supports the rule of law. The immediate catalyst for the change was the case of Ronald Allen Smith, an Albertan sentenced to death in Montana for a double murder committed in 1982. He has fought a lengthy court battle to stave off execution but is nearing the end of his appeals. Mr. Harper has insisted he has no intention of reopening debate on whether to restore the death penalty in Canada. It was formally abolished in 1976, but there has not been an execution in this country since 1962. Liberals contend that Mr. Harper's stand on clemency abroad signals a hidden agenda of bringing back capital punishment at home if he ever wins a majority government. The Grits are likely to continue pressing that point when Parliament resumes Tuesday after a week-long break. The Decima-Harris poll found Liberal voters opposed to Harper's new policy on clemency by 61 per cent to 35, New Democrats against it 63-33, BQ supporters opposed 60-33 and Green backers opposed 56-38. By contrast, Conservatives supported the new policy by a 58-34 count. People aged 18-34 were against Harper 54 per cent to 42 on the issue, those aged 35-49 were opposed 51-41, while those aged 50 or more were in a virtual tie at 46-45 against. Women were opposed 53-39 while men were evenly split at 47-47. Urban dwellers were against the Tory policy 52-40 while rural residents favoured it 46-45. The only geographic region of the country to back the new policy was the Prairies by a 48-44 margin. Atlantic respondents were against it 61-29, while Quebec was opposed by 54-42, Ontario by 47-44 and B.C. by 51-41. The poll of just over 1,000 respondents was conducted Nov. 1-4 and is considered accurate within plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, 19 times in 20. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" So long as governments set the example of killing their enemies, private citizens will occasionally kill theirs. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Subject: Harper's death penalty decision ....
From: The Right One
Date: 11/13/2007 1:14:39 AM
Decima huh? That says it all. -- Terry Pearson Pro- Israel and proud of it http://www.therightpoint.ca Shaping Canada's Destiny ========================== The Dimwit now accuses me of plagiarizing my own material. He says he's backed up by his own intelligence. Ahaha -------------------------------------------- "I can walk upright" ~Peter White -------------------------------------------------- Penny On Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdt6wcK1cSQ ========================= The folks on Canadian politics are in unanimous agreement that Dumbski is an unemployed bum. ********************************************* Liberalism = Entitlement Culture= Corruption ------------------------------------------- There are some opinions so stupid, only socialists could hold them. ------------------------------------------- "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." - Thomas Jefferson -------------------------------------- "Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:fhat6c$eji$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > (K): ..... is not sitting well with the majority of Canadians. One more > nail in HARPER'S coffin..... > ______________________ > > Canadian Press - November 12, 2007 > > > Tory death penalty decision fails to thrill voters > > OTTAWA Most Canadians don't agree with the Tory government's decision to > stop seeking clemency for any citizen facing the death penalty abroad, a > new poll indicates. > > The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey found 50 per cent of respondents > opposed the new policy, with 43 per cent in favour and the rest undecided. > > Those totals concealed a sharp division along party lines, with > Conservatives backing the government by a healthy margin and supporters of > all other parties strongly opposed. > > There were also splits along other lines, with younger, female and urban > voters more likely to be against the government on the issue. Those are > all voting segments that have also been disproportionately opposed to the > Harper government's agenda on other issues. > > The results could present Prime Minister Stephen Harper with a political > conundrum as he seeks to piece together a Tory majority government in the > next election. > [...] > > The poll was conducted within days of the announcement by Public Safety > Minister Stockwell Day that the government would no longer seek clemency > for Canadians sentenced to death in other countries at least not if they > were convicted in a democratic country that supports the rule of law. > > The immediate catalyst for the change was the case of Ronald Allen Smith, > an Albertan sentenced to death in Montana for a double murder committed in > 1982. He has fought a lengthy court battle to stave off execution but is > nearing the end of his appeals. > > Mr. Harper has insisted he has no intention of reopening debate on whether > to restore the death penalty in Canada. It was formally abolished in 1976, > but there has not been an execution in this country since 1962. > > Liberals contend that Mr. Harper's stand on clemency abroad signals a > hidden agenda of bringing back capital punishment at home if he ever wins > a majority government. The Grits are likely to continue pressing that > point when Parliament resumes Tuesday after a week-long break. > > The Decima-Harris poll found Liberal voters opposed to Harper's new policy > on clemency by 61 per cent to 35, New Democrats against it 63-33, BQ > supporters opposed 60-33 and Green backers opposed 56-38. > > By contrast, Conservatives supported the new policy by a 58-34 count. > > People aged 18-34 were against Harper 54 per cent to 42 on the issue, > those aged 35-49 were opposed 51-41, while those aged 50 or more were in a > virtual tie at 46-45 against. > > Women were opposed 53-39 while men were evenly split at 47-47. Urban > dwellers were against the Tory policy 52-40 while rural residents favoured > it 46-45. > > The only geographic region of the country to back the new policy was the > Prairies by a 48-44 margin. Atlantic respondents were against it 61-29, > while Quebec was opposed by 54-42, Ontario by 47-44 and B.C. by 51-41. > > The poll of just over 1,000 respondents was conducted Nov. 1-4 and is > considered accurate within plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, 19 times > in 20. > > """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > So long as governments set the example of killing their enemies, > private citizens will occasionally kill theirs. > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Subject: Harper's death penalty decision ....
From: Canuck57
Date: 11/13/2007 1:45:10 AM
"The Right One" <hatedbydruggies@socialist.left> wrote in message news:3U6_i.204323$Da.121551@pd7urf1no... > Decima huh? That says it all. Agreed. I dare anyone who thinks these polls are worth a POS to ask their MPs to put this to a manitory public referendum. Simply ask: Are there crimes that can be comitted, such as (list the top 1-15) that the death penalty would be appropriate sentance? And list the web sites with the raw and unedited/filters graphic details of the crimes. I think the majority would answer yes. But politicians, including Harpo don't like referendums. He is god to his ego.