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Subject: Conservatives Using Stealth Tactics to Change Death Penalty Position
From: Len McLaughlin
Date: 11/7/2007 8:35:35 PM
<robertpeffers@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Conservatives Using Stealth Tactics to Change Death Penalty Position
> November 7, 2007
>
> OTTAWA - Canada's decision to not sign on as a co-sponsor of a United
> Nations' resolution opposing the use of the death penalty is a shift
> in policy that shows the true nature of this minority Conservative
> government, Liberal Justice Critic Marlene Jennings said today.
>
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I seem to remember Canada extraditing a mass murderer to California after
California basically said if you want him you can keep him.
So if Canada tried to interfere in this current case, what would happen if
it was the old , ''you keep him'' caper again.
Stockwell did say that each case would be examined separately but it
wouldn't be automatic as it had been in the pass. Of course this isn't as
headline grabbing as bringing back hanging.
This was a guy who admitted that he coldly killed two people. So if you
bring him back to Canada, lock him up for maybe 20 years at $50000/yr. That
is money than can't be spent elsewhere, such as health care, childcare, etc,
all no doubt saving one or two useful lives.
The question that these people trying for the noble high ground should be
forced to answer, 'if we brought this guy back to save his useless life,
would you agree, in 20 years or so, to have him live next door to you in a
half way house'. That is exactly what would happen in Canada.
Somebody would get stuck with him next door.
I wonder if Ms. Jennings would agree to have him next door to her. I'd bet
she wouldn't...any takers? The Ms Jennings are always willing to have
somebody else pay the price. With their golden pension plan, they can
always choose the better neighborhoods. I think every parole board officer
should agree to live next door to a half-way house, it might bring a touch
of reality to their lives.
I do detest self righteous phonies, especially when they expect me to
believe their lies. Then you have guys like Robert Peffers who's even more
contemptible. Maybe he'd agree to a half house way for mass killers next
door to him and his wife and his daughter.....any takers on that one?
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> While the Prime Minister has tried to claim there has been no shift in
> official policy, a number of his prominent cabinet ministers have
> publicly stated their support for the death penalty in the past,
> including Justice Minister Rob Nicholson, Public Safety Minister
> Stockwell Day and Defence Minister Peter MacKay.
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In the past 80% of Canadians believed in capital punishment and I suspect
the number is still high. All politicians have different personal and
religious beliefs, but that doesn't mean they'll force them on a public that
doesn't want them. That'd would be policical sucide come election
time...that is why we have elections and why Ms Jennings is just blowing
hot (liberal) air. But feel free to believe her or any other Liberal , it's
still a free country.
-lm
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>
> "Last week they announced they would allow Canadians convicted in
> foreign countries to be put to death, this week they've decided
> they'll abandon Canada's role as a leader in the fight against the use
> of capital punishment worldwide, all without a vote in Parliament, all
> without any input from Canadians," said Ms. Jennings.
> "They're desperate to appear moderate, to trick Canadians into
> believing that a Conservative government wouldn't move Canada closer
> to the radical agenda of President Bush," said Ms. Jennings. "But the
> truth is that this government is eager to implement a socially
> conservative agenda, and they'll start by sneaking what they can
> through the backdoor, since they know they can't pass any of it in the
> current Parliament."
>
> Until this week, Canada has been a leader on the global stage in the
> fight against the death penalty. As a co-sponsor of numerous
> resolutions before the United Nations Human Rights Commission, Canada
> has worked alongside countries such as the United Kingdom and
> Australia to push for a worldwide moratorium on the use of the death
> penalty.
>
> "This government continues to show a complete lack of respect for
> Parliament. If they want to change the policy on the death penalty,
> they should debate the issue in the House, and let Canadians see the
> real face of this government once and for all," said Ms. Jennings.
>
> "The Liberal Party opposes the death penalty, at home and abroad, and
> we won't stand aside and watch this minority government reverse years
> of Canadian leadership on this issue."
>
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