(K): The long arm of the bloody federal government's Canada Revenue Agency. That would be THE HARPER GOVERNMENT'S bloody federal government - the "new" one...... ______________________________ Tuesday, October 30, 2007 Child support wiped out by Ottawa's tax collection Mother outraged daughter goes without so government can collect taxes The federal government is under fire in B.C. for effectively cancelling child support payments to collect on taxes owed by deadbeat parents. Even B.C.'s Attorney General Wally Oppal has concerns about the process and suggests the welfare of children must be considered. "I was so upset," Victoria mother Tracy Davidson told CBC News. "I thought it was ridiculous that the government would take the money that the kids need." Davidson's ex-partner is $18,227 in arrears on his child support payments and B.C.'s Family Maintenance Enforcement Program (FMEP) has a garnishee on his wages. Davidson was getting $500 a month from that, until last December, when her payments suddenly dropped to $3.88 per month. "We depend on those payments," said Davidson. "It's been a never-ending battle." Davidson called the FMEP office, and was shocked when a worker said her money was being scooped by Ottawa, apparently to pay back taxes owed by her daughter's father. Federal law states that when more than one creditor stakes a claim on income, the taxman gets its money first. A spokesman for the Canada Revenue Agency told CBC News if the agency is aware of child support payments they might be taken it into consideration, but only on a case-by-case basis. "If there's a competing garnishment generally ours would take precedent," Bradley Alvarez said. He stressed that collecting taxes is paramount, because it is "an obligation to the Crown." "Obviously, somebody is bigger than I and bigger than the children," said Davidson. "They are not that important to the Government of Canada." [...] Davidson is one of several custodial parents frustrated over getting trumped by the taxman, say family support groups. There's no way of knowing how many cases there are, because no one is keeping those statistics. In one Saskatchewan case, in 2004, the CRA backed off after the mother made a fuss. Her payments were reinstated. B.C. Attorney General Wally Oppal says he has concerns about the process and suggests the welfare of children must be considered. Oppal believes families should always be considered first. "This is something that we need to discuss with the federal regulators," said Oppal. "I think there has to be some accommodation made for children and for spouses who have the burden of looking after children and then they find out that the tax person has the first claim on the money." "I'm surprised Ottawa didn't think that through or make an exception in the initial legislation," said Adrienne Montani, of First Call B.C. Child and Youth Advocacy Coalition. Montani said her organization will press the Harper government to make child support payments an exception to the rule. "It's a question of political will, to make sure that children's rights are primary in making decisions around policy and legislation and practice," said Montani. "This is one of those occasions where kids have fallen through the cracks and that can be easily changed with the political will to do so." CBC News requested an interview with the federal minister responsible, Gordon O'Connor, but that request was denied. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Davidson is frustrated over the lack of information for custodial parents like her. She made numerous calls to federal offices and said no one will tell her when the tax debt will be paid, because they must protect the privacy of her daughter's father. [...] Her situation is made worse by the fact her ex-partner is in Ontario, which charges no interest on child-support debts. Davidson suggested there is no incentive for him to catch up on his payments anytime soon. "This is an open door. If you don't want to pay child support, don't pay your taxes. Have the federal government have a garnishment put on for your taxes and you don't have to pay your child support do you?" """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Taxing is an easy business. Any projector can contrive new compositions, any bungler can add to the old. - Author: Edmund Burke """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

"Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:fg7rim$noo$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > (K): The long arm of the bloody federal government's Canada Revenue > Agency. > That would be THE HARPER GOVERNMENT'S bloody federal government - the > "new" > one...... > ______________________________ > > Tuesday, October 30, 2007 > > Child support wiped out by Ottawa's tax collection > Mother outraged daughter goes without so government can collect taxes > > > The federal government is under fire in B.C. for effectively cancelling > child support payments to collect on taxes owed by deadbeat parents. > > Even B.C.'s Attorney General Wally Oppal has concerns about the process > and suggests the welfare of children must be considered. > > "I was so upset," Victoria mother Tracy Davidson told CBC News. "I thought > it was ridiculous that the government would take the money that the kids > need." > > Davidson's ex-partner is $18,227 in arrears on his child support payments > and B.C.'s Family Maintenance Enforcement Program (FMEP) has a garnishee > on his wages. Davidson was getting $500 a month from that, until > last December, when her payments suddenly dropped to $3.88 per month. > > "We depend on those payments," said Davidson. "It's been a never-ending > battle." > > Davidson called the FMEP office, and was shocked when a worker said her > money was being scooped by Ottawa, apparently to pay back taxes owed by > her daughter's father. > > Federal law states that when more than one creditor stakes a claim > on income, the taxman gets its money first. > > A spokesman for the Canada Revenue Agency told CBC News if the agency is > aware of child support payments they might be taken it into consideration, > but only on a case-by-case basis. > > "If there's a competing garnishment generally ours would take precedent," > Bradley Alvarez said. > > He stressed that collecting taxes is paramount, because it is "an > obligation to the Crown." > > "Obviously, somebody is bigger than I and bigger than the children," said > Davidson. "They are not that important to the Government of Canada." > [...] > > Davidson is one of several custodial parents frustrated over getting > trumped by the taxman, say family support groups. There's no way of > knowing how many cases there are, because no one is keeping those > statistics. > > In one Saskatchewan case, in 2004, the CRA backed off after the mother > made a fuss. Her payments were reinstated. > > B.C. Attorney General Wally Oppal says he has concerns about the process > and suggests the welfare of children must be considered. > Oppal believes families should always be considered first. > > "This is something that we need to discuss with the federal regulators," > said Oppal. "I think there has to be some accommodation made for children > and for spouses who have the burden of looking after children and then > they find out that the tax person has the first claim on the money." > > "I'm surprised Ottawa didn't think that through or make an exception in > the initial legislation," said Adrienne Montani, of First Call B.C. Child > and Youth Advocacy Coalition. > > Montani said her organization will press the Harper government to make > child support payments an exception to the rule. > > "It's a question of political will, to make sure that children's rights > are primary in making decisions around policy and legislation and > practice," said Montani. > > "This is one of those occasions where kids have fallen through the cracks > and that can be easily changed with the political will to do so." > > CBC News requested an interview with the federal minister responsible, > Gordon O'Connor, but that request was denied. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Davidson is frustrated over the lack of information for custodial parents > like her. She made numerous calls to federal offices and said no one will > tell her when the tax debt will be paid, because they must protect the > privacy of her daughter's father. > [...] > Her situation is made worse by the fact her ex-partner is in Ontario, > which > charges no interest on child-support debts. Davidson suggested there is no > incentive for him to catch up on his payments anytime soon. > > "This is an open door. If you don't want to pay child support, don't pay > your taxes. Have the federal government have a garnishment put on for your > taxes and you don't have to pay your child support do you?" > > """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > Taxing is an easy business. Any projector can contrive new compositions, > any bungler can add to the old. - Author: Edmund Burke > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

"Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:fg7rim$noo$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > (K): The long arm of the bloody federal government's Canada Revenue > Agency. > That would be THE HARPER GOVERNMENT'S bloody federal government - the > "new" > one...... > ______________________________ > > Tuesday, October 30, 2007 > > Child support wiped out by Ottawa's tax collection > Mother outraged daughter goes without so government can collect taxes > Maybe she should have been a better wife, and this wouldn't have happened. The government shouldn't be held responsible for the irresponsible choices of the feminazies -- Terry Pearson Pro- Israel and proud of it http://www.therightpoint.ca Shaping Canada's Destiny ========================== "I can walk upright" ~Peter White -------------------------------------------------- Penny On Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdt6wcK1cSQ ========================= Dumbski's obsession http://wildhorsedories.com/ctv.wmv The folks on Canadian politics are in unanimous agreement that Dumbski is an unemployed bum. ********************************************* Liberalism = Entitlement Culture= Corruption ------------------------------------------- There are some opinions so stupid, only socialists could hold them. ------------------------------------------- "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." - Thomas Jefferson -----------------------------------------------------------

If you vote for big costly controlling government, big costly controlling government you will get. Think, the NDP even want it bigger. Not that the Libs/Cons are any better. Just look at the spending increases year over year for the last 10 years. Bug government has big taxation needs. The biggest single cost in a Canadians lifetime is taxes. Too bad we couldn't get our pay cheques indexed to government spending and taxation. Better to have smaller less costly government, leaving the money in peoples pockets. "Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:fg7rim$noo$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > (K): The long arm of the bloody federal government's Canada Revenue > Agency. > That would be THE HARPER GOVERNMENT'S bloody federal government - the > "new" > one...... > ______________________________ > > Tuesday, October 30, 2007 > > Child support wiped out by Ottawa's tax collection > Mother outraged daughter goes without so government can collect taxes > > > The federal government is under fire in B.C. for effectively cancelling > child support payments to collect on taxes owed by deadbeat parents. > > Even B.C.'s Attorney General Wally Oppal has concerns about the process > and suggests the welfare of children must be considered. > > "I was so upset," Victoria mother Tracy Davidson told CBC News. "I thought > it was ridiculous that the government would take the money that the kids > need." > > Davidson's ex-partner is $18,227 in arrears on his child support payments > and B.C.'s Family Maintenance Enforcement Program (FMEP) has a garnishee > on his wages. Davidson was getting $500 a month from that, until > last December, when her payments suddenly dropped to $3.88 per month. > > "We depend on those payments," said Davidson. "It's been a never-ending > battle." > > Davidson called the FMEP office, and was shocked when a worker said her > money was being scooped by Ottawa, apparently to pay back taxes owed by > her daughter's father. > > Federal law states that when more than one creditor stakes a claim > on income, the taxman gets its money first. > > A spokesman for the Canada Revenue Agency told CBC News if the agency is > aware of child support payments they might be taken it into consideration, > but only on a case-by-case basis. > > "If there's a competing garnishment generally ours would take precedent," > Bradley Alvarez said. > > He stressed that collecting taxes is paramount, because it is "an > obligation to the Crown." > > "Obviously, somebody is bigger than I and bigger than the children," said > Davidson. "They are not that important to the Government of Canada." > [...] > > Davidson is one of several custodial parents frustrated over getting > trumped by the taxman, say family support groups. There's no way of > knowing how many cases there are, because no one is keeping those > statistics. > > In one Saskatchewan case, in 2004, the CRA backed off after the mother > made a fuss. Her payments were reinstated. > > B.C. Attorney General Wally Oppal says he has concerns about the process > and suggests the welfare of children must be considered. > Oppal believes families should always be considered first. > > "This is something that we need to discuss with the federal regulators," > said Oppal. "I think there has to be some accommodation made for children > and for spouses who have the burden of looking after children and then > they find out that the tax person has the first claim on the money." > > "I'm surprised Ottawa didn't think that through or make an exception in > the initial legislation," said Adrienne Montani, of First Call B.C. Child > and Youth Advocacy Coalition. > > Montani said her organization will press the Harper government to make > child support payments an exception to the rule. > > "It's a question of political will, to make sure that children's rights > are primary in making decisions around policy and legislation and > practice," said Montani. > > "This is one of those occasions where kids have fallen through the cracks > and that can be easily changed with the political will to do so." > > CBC News requested an interview with the federal minister responsible, > Gordon O'Connor, but that request was denied. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Davidson is frustrated over the lack of information for custodial parents > like her. She made numerous calls to federal offices and said no one will > tell her when the tax debt will be paid, because they must protect the > privacy of her daughter's father. > [...] > Her situation is made worse by the fact her ex-partner is in Ontario, > which > charges no interest on child-support debts. Davidson suggested there is no > incentive for him to catch up on his payments anytime soon. > > "This is an open door. If you don't want to pay child support, don't pay > your taxes. Have the federal government have a garnishment put on for your > taxes and you don't have to pay your child support do you?" > > """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > Taxing is an easy business. Any projector can contrive new compositions, > any bungler can add to the old. - Author: Edmund Burke > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

"Karen Gordon" <ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message news:fg7rim$noo$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > (K): The long arm of the bloody federal government's Canada Revenue > Agency. > That would be THE HARPER GOVERNMENT'S bloody federal government - the > "new" > one...... > ______________________________ > > Tuesday, October 30, 2007 > > Child support wiped out by Ottawa's tax collection > Mother outraged daughter goes without so government can collect taxes > > > The federal government is under fire in B.C. for effectively cancelling > child support payments to collect on taxes owed by deadbeat parents. > > Even B.C.'s Attorney General Wally Oppal has concerns about the process > and suggests the welfare of children must be considered. > > "I was so upset," Victoria mother Tracy Davidson told CBC News. "I thought > it was ridiculous that the government would take the money that the kids > need." > > Davidson's ex-partner is $18,227 in arrears on his child support payments > and B.C.'s Family Maintenance Enforcement Program (FMEP) has a garnishee > on his wages. Davidson was getting $500 a month from that, until > last December, when her payments suddenly dropped to $3.88 per month. > > "We depend on those payments," said Davidson. "It's been a never-ending > battle." > > Davidson called the FMEP office, and was shocked when a worker said her > money was being scooped by Ottawa, apparently to pay back taxes owed by > her daughter's father. > > Federal law states that when more than one creditor stakes a claim > on income, the taxman gets its money first. > > A spokesman for the Canada Revenue Agency told CBC News if the agency is > aware of child support payments they might be taken it into consideration, > but only on a case-by-case basis. > > "If there's a competing garnishment generally ours would take precedent," > Bradley Alvarez said. > > He stressed that collecting taxes is paramount, because it is "an > obligation to the Crown." > > "Obviously, somebody is bigger than I and bigger than the children," said > Davidson. "They are not that important to the Government of Canada." > [...] > > Davidson is one of several custodial parents frustrated over getting > trumped by the taxman, say family support groups. There's no way of > knowing how many cases there are, because no one is keeping those > statistics. > > In one Saskatchewan case, in 2004, the CRA backed off after the mother > made a fuss. Her payments were reinstated. > > B.C. Attorney General Wally Oppal says he has concerns about the process > and suggests the welfare of children must be considered. > Oppal believes families should always be considered first. > > "This is something that we need to discuss with the federal regulators," > said Oppal. "I think there has to be some accommodation made for children > and for spouses who have the burden of looking after children and then > they find out that the tax person has the first claim on the money." > > "I'm surprised Ottawa didn't think that through or make an exception in > the initial legislation," said Adrienne Montani, of First Call B.C. Child > and Youth Advocacy Coalition. > > Montani said her organization will press the Harper government to make > child support payments an exception to the rule. > > "It's a question of political will, to make sure that children's rights > are primary in making decisions around policy and legislation and > practice," said Montani. > > "This is one of those occasions where kids have fallen through the cracks > and that can be easily changed with the political will to do so." > > CBC News requested an interview with the federal minister responsible, > Gordon O'Connor, but that request was denied. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Davidson is frustrated over the lack of information for custodial parents > like her. She made numerous calls to federal offices and said no one will > tell her when the tax debt will be paid, because they must protect the > privacy of her daughter's father. > [...] > Her situation is made worse by the fact her ex-partner is in Ontario, > which > charges no interest on child-support debts. Davidson suggested there is no > incentive for him to catch up on his payments anytime soon. > > "This is an open door. If you don't want to pay child support, don't pay > your taxes. Have the federal government have a garnishment put on for your > taxes and you don't have to pay your child support do you?" Hey, I am all for denial of government services for delinquent accounts, including child support, but will add criminal activity and traffic fines. Even if it is a woman who abandons her child. What the hell, neuter them or get them to give a kidney but the bills need to be paid. No one works for free. Even UI people want 10 weeks. Amazing, we need licenses for cars, boats, businesses, guns and sometimes cross bows, but we can raise the worlds best killing machines (man/woman) without so much as a 2 cent tax. Miffs me why a city (tax reaper) harasses a person for cutting someone's hair without a "city" license gets so far yet we will not touch the dysfunctional parenting going on. Let the flame start. Show me a dysfunction punk and I will show you screwed up parents. Pray that most parents are actually good.