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It seems that Shaw just can not keep their so-called news-server working properly for a week at a time. Again, it is all screwed up - pouring out hundreds of thousands of old news articles to newsgroups, some dating back to beginning of September! Immediately prior to this flood, their news-server was giving an error message: 503 program fault, command not performed Hopefully someone at SHAW will fix their prolems with the damn news-server, so that Shaw customers will be able to continue claiming that Shaw gives better service than Telus.

In article <571e800a377feeb439d94793614e01c4@hermetix.org>, Anonymous <xor@hermetix.org> wrote: >It seems that Shaw just can not keep their so-called news-server working >properly for a week at a time. > >Again, it is all screwed up - pouring out hundreds of thousands of old >news articles to newsgroups, >some dating back to beginning of September! > >Immediately prior to this flood, their news-server was giving an error message: > >503 program fault, command not performed > >Hopefully someone at SHAW will fix their prolems with the damn >news-server, so that Shaw customers >will be able to continue claiming that Shaw gives better service than Telus. > I wonder which amateurs have been hired to manage something trivial as NNTP. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

In article <3r0bm31m493447d3u3jj8m1si55b2rsmpj@4ax.com>, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: >On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:34:58 GMT, while chained to a desk in >the scriptorium Irv Finkleman <finkirv@shaw.ca> wrote: >> $Anonymous wrote: > >> $> It seems that Shaw just can not keep their so-called news-server >working properly for a week at a time. >> $> >> $> Again, it is all screwed up - pouring out hundreds of thousands of >old news articles to newsgroups, >> $> some dating back to beginning of September! >> $> >> $> Immediately prior to this flood, their news-server was giving an >error message: >> $> >> $> 503 program fault, command not performed >> $> >> $> Hopefully someone at SHAW will fix their prolems with the damn >news-server, so that Shaw customers >> $> will be able to continue claiming that Shaw gives better service >than Telus. >> $ >> $I check 5 newsgroups every day and have not noticed any >> $problems. Could it be your settings? > >I think you will find the problem is the original poster is >really William Grosvenor. > >Shaw (and every other ISP on the planet) have devised >interesting code to make Grosvenor's posting experience >"interesting". > You mean there is a bot malfunction? -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:fk4198$edl$11@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <571e800a377feeb439d94793614e01c4@hermetix.org>, > Anonymous <xor@hermetix.org> wrote: >>It seems that Shaw just can not keep their so-called news-server working >>properly for a week at a time. >> >>Again, it is all screwed up - pouring out hundreds of thousands of old >>news articles to newsgroups, >>some dating back to beginning of September! >> >>Immediately prior to this flood, their news-server was giving an error >>message: >> >>503 program fault, command not performed >> >>Hopefully someone at SHAW will fix their prolems with the damn >>news-server, so that Shaw customers >>will be able to continue claiming that Shaw gives better service than >>Telus. >> > > I wonder which amateurs have been hired to manage something > trivial as NNTP. Shaw should just put the source of this garbage in the kill file. Shaw was advertising for support staff not too long ago. Either they got someone cheap or no one at all.

In article <3r0bm31m493447d3u3jj8m1si55b2rsmpj@4ax.com>, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: [...] >I think you will find the problem is the original poster is >really William Grosvenor. Strangely, Mr. Grosvenor doesn't seem to be using Shaw's news servers these days. Methinks he does indeed have a problem, but it isn't the one he is suggesting. >Shaw (and every other ISP on the planet) have devised >interesting code to make Grosvenor's posting experience >"interesting". Grosvenor is never interesting :-) -- "People want to know all the facts whatever they are true or not." (Kurt Knoll, Kitimat's Leading Revisionist Scholar and all-round moron.) The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

Said 33k modem man -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:fk4198$edl$11@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <571e800a377feeb439d94793614e01c4@hermetix.org>, > Anonymous <xor@hermetix.org> wrote: > >It seems that Shaw just can not keep their so-called news-server working > >properly for a week at a time. > > > >Again, it is all screwed up - pouring out hundreds of thousands of old > >news articles to newsgroups, > >some dating back to beginning of September! > > > >Immediately prior to this flood, their news-server was giving an error message: > > > >503 program fault, command not performed > > > >Hopefully someone at SHAW will fix their prolems with the damn > >news-server, so that Shaw customers > >will be able to continue claiming that Shaw gives better service than Telus. > > > > I wonder which amateurs have been hired to manage something > trivial as NNTP. > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

Yes bang your head against a wall, see if that helps -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:fk41cc$edl$13@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <3r0bm31m493447d3u3jj8m1si55b2rsmpj@4ax.com>, > John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: > >On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:34:58 GMT, while chained to a desk in > >the scriptorium Irv Finkleman <finkirv@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> $Anonymous wrote: > > > >> $> It seems that Shaw just can not keep their so-called news-server > >working properly for a week at a time. > >> $> > >> $> Again, it is all screwed up - pouring out hundreds of thousands of > >old news articles to newsgroups, > >> $> some dating back to beginning of September! > >> $> > >> $> Immediately prior to this flood, their news-server was giving an > >error message: > >> $> > >> $> 503 program fault, command not performed > >> $> > >> $> Hopefully someone at SHAW will fix their prolems with the damn > >news-server, so that Shaw customers > >> $> will be able to continue claiming that Shaw gives better service > >than Telus. > >> $ > >> $I check 5 newsgroups every day and have not noticed any > >> $problems. Could it be your settings? > > > >I think you will find the problem is the original poster is > >really William Grosvenor. > > > >Shaw (and every other ISP on the planet) have devised > >interesting code to make Grosvenor's posting experience > >"interesting". > > > > You mean there is a bot malfunction? > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

In article <13mb6t587qdjucd@corp.supernews.com>, Kenneth McVay OBC <kmcvay@shell.vex.net> wrote: >In article <3r0bm31m493447d3u3jj8m1si55b2rsmpj@4ax.com>, >John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: > >[...] > >>I think you will find the problem is the original poster is >>really William Grosvenor. > >Strangely, Mr. Grosvenor doesn't seem to be using Shaw's news servers >these days. >Methinks he does indeed have a problem, but it isn't the one he is suggesting. > >>Shaw (and every other ISP on the planet) have devised >>interesting code to make Grosvenor's posting experience >>"interesting". > >Grosvenor is never interesting :-) > Ken, Grosvenor is just a waste of space. How do I know? I net this fruitbar when I was giving a computer demo. I do not want to say more. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

And he wanted more than a 33k modem -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:fk4dmi$rbv$5@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <13mb6t587qdjucd@corp.supernews.com>, > Kenneth McVay OBC <kmcvay@shell.vex.net> wrote: > >In article <3r0bm31m493447d3u3jj8m1si55b2rsmpj@4ax.com>, > >John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>I think you will find the problem is the original poster is > >>really William Grosvenor. > > > >Strangely, Mr. Grosvenor doesn't seem to be using Shaw's news servers > >these days. > >Methinks he does indeed have a problem, but it isn't the one he is suggesting. > > > >>Shaw (and every other ISP on the planet) have devised > >>interesting code to make Grosvenor's posting experience > >>"interesting". > > > >Grosvenor is never interesting :-) > > > > Ken, Grosvenor is just a waste of space. > How do I know? > I net this fruitbar when I was giving > a computer demo. > > I do not want to say more. > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

In calgary.general John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: > Plus, I'm not sure what a ten foot poll looks like. Like, I > know what a ten foot *pole* looks like, but not a ten foot > poll. It has a LOT of questions, for starters...

Shaw is famous for running the nations worst newsgroup server and mail server for decade now. They are a 50/50 crap shoot really. But the rest of the service is the best amongst the others at present, not that it's perfect but bang for the buck it's the best. I've used them all here in Calgary at one time or another, the rest do newsgroup and mail services vastly better but suck were it really counts(stable fast downloads speeds). You can always get a newsgroup reader that isn't Shaw's mess up one. These other guys here seam to have a hardon for this Grosvner guy or what ever the hell his name is, as zero gets debated here much but the 90% post sent to him in a childish manner. They claim they hate but he get more replies than all others combined here, second by this doctor guy. Not really much here too miss even if Shaw misses a day or two. Grosvner and doctor hate the establishment and these other posters hate him. There now you've got all the post for the whole year in one and most of next years too. So you should be up to date now and for a while to come. "Anonymous" <xor@hermetix.org> wrote in message news:571e800a377feeb439d94793614e01c4@hermetix.org... > It seems that Shaw just can not keep their so-called news-server working > properly for a week at a time. > > Again, it is all screwed up - pouring out hundreds of thousands of old > news articles to newsgroups, > some dating back to beginning of September! > > Immediately prior to this flood, their news-server was giving an error > message: > > 503 program fault, command not performed > > Hopefully someone at SHAW will fix their prolems with the damn > news-server, so that Shaw customers > will be able to continue claiming that Shaw gives better service than > Telus. >

In article <3lnbm3tsig72u92le04sdll1b19ij8m6sg@4ax.com>, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: >On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:04:48 GMT, while chained to a desk in >the scriptorium "PV" <edruser@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote: >> $"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message >> $news:fk43h3$edl$20@gallifrey.nk.ca... > >> $> To be honest, I would never touch shaw with a 10 foot poll. >> $ >> $Of course you wouldn't, they don't offer dial-up. > ><grin> > >Plus, I'm not sure what a ten foot poll looks like. Like, I >know what a ten foot *pole* looks like, but not a ten foot >poll. > >> $Don't you have a list to work on? > >He's a little bit late. According to my watch, he missed >Loaf's deadline by about three and a half hours. > >-- > >John Fleming >Edmonton, Canada > > A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her > Way by Moonlight. > > -- Oscar Wilde The only way to accept High Speed is that your service has to be full-duplex and non-shared and non-asymmetrical. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

In article <j1pbm3h95qq9c2t2vu1fd3gtsmhib252oi@4ax.com>, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: >On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:33:43 +0100 (CET), while chained to a >desk in the scriptorium "Colin B." ><cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote: > >> $In calgary.general John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: >> $ >> $> Plus, I'm not sure what a ten foot poll looks like. Like, I >> $> know what a ten foot *pole* looks like, but not a ten foot >> $> poll. >> $ >> $It has a LOT of questions, for starters... > >LOL > >Fortunately, when someone asks if I have time to answer a >few simple questions, I say no. I wont get victimized by >one of these ten foot polls. > >-- > Careful not to dive into a 10 foot pool John. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

In article <tMo9j.6940$hQ3.2109@pd7urf3no>, Ceri Thomas <ceri@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote: > Shaw is famous for running the nations worst newsgroup server and mail >server for decade now. They are a 50/50 crap shoot really. But the rest of >the service is the best amongst the others at present, not that it's perfect >but bang for the buck it's the best. I've used them all here in Calgary at >one time or another, the rest do newsgroup and mail services vastly better >but suck were it really counts(stable fast downloads speeds). You can always >get a newsgroup reader that isn't Shaw's mess up one. > These other guys here seam to have a hardon for this Grosvner guy or what >ever the hell his name is, as zero gets debated here much but the 90% post >sent to him in a childish manner. They claim they hate but he get more >replies than all others combined here, second by this doctor guy. Not really >much here too miss even if Shaw misses a day or two. Grosvner and doctor >hate the establishment and these other posters hate him. There now you've >got all the post for the whole year in one and most of next years too. So >you should be up to date now and for a while to come. > NEws and mail. No wonder every blackhole has a Shaw IP listed somehow. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

POST THE LIST -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:fk5v3q$fd9$8@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <3lnbm3tsig72u92le04sdll1b19ij8m6sg@4ax.com>, > John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: > >On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:04:48 GMT, while chained to a desk in > >the scriptorium "PV" <edruser@NOSPAMtelus.net> wrote: > >> $"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message > >> $news:fk43h3$edl$20@gallifrey.nk.ca... > > > >> $> To be honest, I would never touch shaw with a 10 foot poll. > >> $ > >> $Of course you wouldn't, they don't offer dial-up. > > > ><grin> > > > >Plus, I'm not sure what a ten foot poll looks like. Like, I > >know what a ten foot *pole* looks like, but not a ten foot > >poll. > > > >> $Don't you have a list to work on? > > > >He's a little bit late. According to my watch, he missed > >Loaf's deadline by about three and a half hours. > > > >-- > > > >John Fleming > >Edmonton, Canada > > > > A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her > > Way by Moonlight. > > > > -- Oscar Wilde > > The only way to accept High Speed is that your service has to be > full-duplex and non-shared and non-asymmetrical. > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

POST THE LIST -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:fk5v62$fd9$9@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <j1pbm3h95qq9c2t2vu1fd3gtsmhib252oi@4ax.com>, > John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: > >On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:33:43 +0100 (CET), while chained to a > >desk in the scriptorium "Colin B." > ><cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote: > > > >> $In calgary.general John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: > >> $ > >> $> Plus, I'm not sure what a ten foot poll looks like. Like, I > >> $> know what a ten foot *pole* looks like, but not a ten foot > >> $> poll. > >> $ > >> $It has a LOT of questions, for starters... > > > >LOL > > > >Fortunately, when someone asks if I have time to answer a > >few simple questions, I say no. I wont get victimized by > >one of these ten foot polls. > > > >-- > > > > Careful not to dive into a 10 foot pool John. > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!

POST THE LIST -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:fk5vc8$fd9$12@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <tMo9j.6940$hQ3.2109@pd7urf3no>, > Ceri Thomas <ceri@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote: > > Shaw is famous for running the nations worst newsgroup server and mail > >server for decade now. They are a 50/50 crap shoot really. But the rest of > >the service is the best amongst the others at present, not that it's perfect > >but bang for the buck it's the best. I've used them all here in Calgary at > >one time or another, the rest do newsgroup and mail services vastly better > >but suck were it really counts(stable fast downloads speeds). You can always > >get a newsgroup reader that isn't Shaw's mess up one. > > These other guys here seam to have a hardon for this Grosvner guy or what > >ever the hell his name is, as zero gets debated here much but the 90% post > >sent to him in a childish manner. They claim they hate but he get more > >replies than all others combined here, second by this doctor guy. Not really > >much here too miss even if Shaw misses a day or two. Grosvner and doctor > >hate the establishment and these other posters hate him. There now you've > >got all the post for the whole year in one and most of next years too. So > >you should be up to date now and for a while to come. > > > > NEws and mail. No wonder every blackhole has a Shaw > IP listed somehow. > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > Merry CHRISTmas 2007 and Happy New Year 2008! CHRIST is the reason for the season!