"John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote in message news:j3upj3ddqvbr3j06jsll4eno3oga6hh2r3@4ax.com... > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:14:38 GMT, while chained to a desk in > the scriptorium snowman <x@x.x> wrote: >> $HakimHaroun wrote: >> $ >> $~snip~ >> $ >> $Didn't you make this same post about a month ago? I think that >> $Alzheimer's must be chewing on your brainstem, you are starting to >> $forget things. > > He's been complaining about this for ages, all the while > quietly forgetting that, as a low income senior, he is > getting virtually free transit service. > > I just mentioned in another post that the city plans to > increase the cost of a low income senior's pass from $45.00 > to $46.50, a 3.3% increase. The seniors who get regular > senior annual pass are getting off even easier. Their pass > goes up $3.00 from $105.00 to $108.00. That's a 2.9% > increase. > > By comparison, the price of the regular adult pass will > increase from $59.00 to $66.50. That's an almost 13% > increase. > > Quite frankly, the city is talking about the need to > increase service on core routes and extending service to new > subdivisions. And I can understand the need for the > increase. I've been on buses in the evening that are > standing room only--and more packed than they are during > rush hour. > > And yet seniors, including blowhards like Grosvenor here, > are getting a virtual free ride. That $3.88 per month gets > them unlimited use of the transit system: bus and LRT. The percentage of POOR seniors is probably LESS than the percentage of poor NON-seniors, yet there are few subsidies available to poor NON-seniors. Students, yes, and welfare recipients, to a limited degree, via their cheques. I'd like to increase the NON-POOR SENIOR rate to a rate similar to that which students pay. BTW, I'm a senior in less than 4 years who may or may not eventually qualify for the current city subsidy for seniors. To be TRULY fair, all subsidies should not only be INCOME tested but also ASSET tested. This would be a lot fairer but would be a bureaucratic nightmare to enforce, although the provincial govt. claims to do it with AISH and social assistance recipients. > > -- > > John Fleming > Edmonton, Canada > > A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her > Way by Moonlight. > > -- Oscar Wilde

I take it you will not be getting old John, what will it be suicide or a family genetic problem -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote in message news:j3upj3ddqvbr3j06jsll4eno3oga6hh2r3@4ax.com... > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:14:38 GMT, while chained to a desk in > the scriptorium snowman <x@x.x> wrote: > > $HakimHaroun wrote: > > $ > > $~snip~ > > $ > > $Didn't you make this same post about a month ago? I think that > > $Alzheimer's must be chewing on your brainstem, you are starting to > > $forget things. > > He's been complaining about this for ages, all the while > quietly forgetting that, as a low income senior, he is > getting virtually free transit service. > > I just mentioned in another post that the city plans to > increase the cost of a low income senior's pass from $45.00 > to $46.50, a 3.3% increase. The seniors who get regular > senior annual pass are getting off even easier. Their pass > goes up $3.00 from $105.00 to $108.00. That's a 2.9% > increase. > > By comparison, the price of the regular adult pass will > increase from $59.00 to $66.50. That's an almost 13% > increase. > > Quite frankly, the city is talking about the need to > increase service on core routes and extending service to new > subdivisions. And I can understand the need for the > increase. I've been on buses in the evening that are > standing room only--and more packed than they are during > rush hour. > > And yet seniors, including blowhards like Grosvenor here, > are getting a virtual free ride. That $3.88 per month gets > them unlimited use of the transit system: bus and LRT. > > -- > > John Fleming > Edmonton, Canada > > A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her > Way by Moonlight. > > -- Oscar Wilde

In article <lspsj3ldhkbi16q32iti3l18ot4oh7uetj@4ax.com>, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: >On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:05:19 -0700, while chained to a desk >in the scriptorium "TopPoster" <TopPoster@Poster.Com> wrote: > >> $I take it you will not be getting old John, what will it be suicide or a >> $family genetic problem > >TP, when I get old, I may even rue the day I suggested >increasing the low income seniors pass in the first place. > >That said, I don't think it is unfair to ask a low income >senior to pay for two bus trips a month. At current transit >fares, that is $4.50 per month, or $54 for an annual low >income seniors pass, not the $45 for an annaul pass ( $3.75 >per month equivalent) they currently pay. > >That low income senior pass gives them unlimited use of the >transit system. > Even cheaper is the bike. -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Voting Canadians vote anyone but Harper Cronies!!

You want seniors on bikes on the highway, are you crazy -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message news:fhmscj$cmf$14@gallifrey.nk.ca... > In article <lspsj3ldhkbi16q32iti3l18ot4oh7uetj@4ax.com>, > John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote: > >On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:05:19 -0700, while chained to a desk > >in the scriptorium "TopPoster" <TopPoster@Poster.Com> wrote: > > > >> $I take it you will not be getting old John, what will it be suicide or a > >> $family genetic problem > > > >TP, when I get old, I may even rue the day I suggested > >increasing the low income seniors pass in the first place. > > > >That said, I don't think it is unfair to ask a low income > >senior to pay for two bus trips a month. At current transit > >fares, that is $4.50 per month, or $54 for an annual low > >income seniors pass, not the $45 for an annaul pass ( $3.75 > >per month equivalent) they currently pay. > > > >That low income senior pass gives them unlimited use of the > >transit system. > > > > Even cheaper is the bike. > -- > Member - Liberal International > This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca > God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! > Voting Canadians vote anyone but Harper Cronies!!