the correct answer is: The average person SHOULD ! It is VERY simple to do .. email me at anytime, anyone and I can share the simple details with you on how the process works. ANYONE can do it with ease. You can buy a 17,000-20,000 car for 3000-5000 less in the usa .... just shop around. So, why wouldnt you ? It's a darn shame the Canadian government hasnt "stepped up" yet. It is going to kill local business' as we know it. In the meantime, the average person can save a lot of money for various items ... all that is needed is a drive to Calais ! D "Serious" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:QCTPi.31934$1y4.22927@pd7urf2no... > > "Denis" <dssdealer@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:470fcedf$0$14866$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > :I know a guy that just started importing brand new truck and cars from > the > : USA.. bringing in Tacoma's, Highlanders ect.. > : He's buying them there for 12K under our prices, and selling them here > 5K > : under what our dealers want.. and he's still making almost 5K per > car/truck. > > Would you or the average person by a car from out of province never mind > out of country? >

Toyota, likely not ... "Typically" you need to buy a north american made car, for the warranty to be FULLY transferable (there are ways around it, but not getting into those here) Here is the odd thing: I know that Honda for example has Honda USA , and Honda Canada ... both seperate incorporations. Hence they will not honor each others warranty. (unless your on holidays and out of country) ... they themselves do this to deter people from buying accross the border. IF you buy it in the USA, you must register it in the USA for warranty purposes. (and same in Canada) GM & Ford for example, warranty is 100% valid no matter where you buy it, and no matter where you have it registered. It's just a large conspiracy all the way around. D "Serious" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:OmUPi.32426$th2.4383@pd7urf3no... >I agree, our prices here are ridiculous. But the average folk like me > can only afford a $20,000 vehicle at best after taxes. Unfortunately, my > vehicle is 2.5 years old. When I bought it our dollar wasnt doing well. > Besides, the savings on the lower end vehicles is not as large or > significant on a vehicle that costs as much as yours. If you can get a > buyer here in Canada to flip the car, that's great for many people > that's can be a hassle. I know I would very reluctant to buy a car > from out of country used. > > I am not sure about Toyota in the US but here in BC the price is fixed > so there is no negotiating on the price. Do you have a full warranty > valid in Canada with Toyota? > > "Jeff" <jeff260z@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:47100d64$0$14834$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > :A new Toyota Tacoma 4 door, 4x4 TRD package here in Moncton is $50,000. > In > : Maine the same truck is $30,000. My ford Van new was $30,000. It's > now > : worth $12,000 4 1/2 years later. I can go to the US buy that truck for > : $30,000, drive it for 4 years and sell it for about $30,000. Hmm. Just > : doesn't seem possible but it is. As long as Canadian prices do not go > down. > : If they do go down then I may only get $25,000 for the truck. > : > : We should be able to buy more with our dollar because our dollar is > worth > : more on the global market. Most stores/dealers in Canada stock > inventory but > : that inventory purchased at a low dollar should be dried up on most > items > : (not all). Magazines printed in the US should have one price now. I > heard > : some do in fact only show one price. We have to be careful though. > That one > : price may be a special Canadian price and still be higher than the US > : selling price. > : > : I for one will take full advantage of our high dollar and buy as much > as I > : can in the US. > : > : Imagine the profit Canadian versions of the car manufactures are > making. If > : that Toyota truck can be sold in the US for a profit at $30,000 you > can > : imagine that $20,000 more in Canada is all profit. >

"Picasso" <Picasso@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47103090$0$14832$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > Serious wrote: >> "Picasso" <Picasso@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:47100afd$0$14841$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... >> : : > >> : > Would you or the average person by a car from out of province never >> mind >> : > out of country? >> : > >> : >> : Would the average person NOT want to save 10000 bucks, which is what >> you >> : would save buying a toyota tacoma? >> >> Would the average person want to buy a Tacoma in the first place? > > I would hope so. > > If i were shopping for a 1/4 tonne truck if i had the money that would be > the only choice. > > same deal on a camry... save $10,000. you'd be stupid to buy one here. > > Oh people whine about "the warranty" but i mean really... if you had to > either drive to the us yourself and get it fixed, do it. > > if not, $10,000 will cover more repairs than that vehicle will EVER have > in the warranty period. > > Used cars... no question.... why not get a us vehicle. too bad they > weren't metric and you wouldnt have to deal with an imperial spedo & odo. Most but not all honour their warrantee across border.

"Serious" <hatespam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:fqr0h3t5tqsi018909r2u0rn98gm7oivav@4ax.com... > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:42:27 -0300, Picasso <Picasso@gmail.com> wrote: > : > :I would hope so. > : > :If i were shopping for a 1/4 tonne truck if i had the money that would > :be the only choice. > : > :same deal on a camry... save $10,000. you'd be stupid to buy one here. > > The Toyota is a nice truck for sure but I like the looks of the Fords > better. I haven't done any research on features and power or > reliability though because I can't afford one. :( > > Are you sure there is a $10,000 difference between the price of a > Camry in Washington State vs BC? ford.ca - F150 Lariat SC 4x4 long box $42,049 (MSRP with incentive) ford.com - F150 Lariat SC 4x4 long box $35,450 (MSRP without incentive) From the same plants same options and color. And Ford is one of the better ones. Try honda.ca and honda.com and others. BTW, add diesel to above and your savings will smoke right past $10,000.

"Serious" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:OmUPi.32426$th2.4383@pd7urf3no... >I agree, our prices here are ridiculous. But the average folk like me > can only afford a $20,000 vehicle at best after taxes. Unfortunately, my > vehicle is 2.5 years old. When I bought it our dollar wasnt doing well. > Besides, the savings on the lower end vehicles is not as large or > significant on a vehicle that costs as much as yours. If you can get a > buyer here in Canada to flip the car, that's great for many people > that's can be a hassle. I know I would very reluctant to buy a car > from out of country used. > > I am not sure about Toyota in the US but here in BC the price is fixed > so there is no negotiating on the price. Do you have a full warranty > valid in Canada with Toyota? > > "Jeff" <jeff260z@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:47100d64$0$14834$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > :A new Toyota Tacoma 4 door, 4x4 TRD package here in Moncton is $50,000. > In > : Maine the same truck is $30,000. My ford Van new was $30,000. It's > now > : worth $12,000 4 1/2 years later. I can go to the US buy that truck for > : $30,000, drive it for 4 years and sell it for about $30,000. Hmm. Just > : doesn't seem possible but it is. As long as Canadian prices do not go > down. > : If they do go down then I may only get $25,000 for the truck. > : > : We should be able to buy more with our dollar because our dollar is > worth > : more on the global market. Most stores/dealers in Canada stock > inventory but > : that inventory purchased at a low dollar should be dried up on most > items > : (not all). Magazines printed in the US should have one price now. I > heard > : some do in fact only show one price. We have to be careful though. > That one > : price may be a special Canadian price and still be higher than the US > : selling price. > : > : I for one will take full advantage of our high dollar and buy as much > as I > : can in the US. > : > : Imagine the profit Canadian versions of the car manufactures are > making. If > : that Toyota truck can be sold in the US for a profit at $30,000 you > can > : imagine that $20,000 more in Canada is all profit. Toyota.ca Corolla LE MSRP $21,900 Toyota.com Corolla LE MSRP $15,615 Savings $6285 plus the $879 you avoid in GST/PST. Over $7000 on a basic car. US also usually has better incentives.

"David" <java@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:47101cb9$0$14839$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > Toyota, likely not ... > > "Typically" you need to buy a north american made car, for the warranty to > be FULLY transferable (there are ways around it, but not getting into > those here) > > Here is the odd thing: I know that Honda for example has Honda USA , and > Honda Canada ... both seperate incorporations. Hence they will not honor > each others warranty. (unless your on holidays and out of country) ... > they themselves do this to deter people from buying accross the border. IF > you buy it in the USA, you must register it in the USA for warranty > purposes. (and same in Canada) > > GM & Ford for example, warranty is 100% valid no matter where you buy it, > and no matter where you have it registered. > > It's just a large conspiracy all the way around. True. You want to make sure it was made in North America. But you would be surprised at how many of the "foreign" names are made in North America. Tundra is in Texas, Honda in Allison Ontario, Yep, Honda is about the worst of the big names. In Portland Oregon a Ridgeline made in Allison Ontario is considerably less expensive than 2 blocks from the plant in Ontario. Price and warranty fixing. If you like foreign, you actually may want to consider an F150 which has more foreign content than does a Ridgeline. Where Toyota's are made in North America http://www.toyota.com/about/operations/manufacturing/ Also note, it isn't just MSRP that is inflated, invoice also is cooked. I know of one person who recently got 10% below invoice after beating them up on pricing.

"Serious" <hatespam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:p280h3l4uib6vth3ggn3anee3od76aqs69@4ax.com... > That's a dumb move then to buy a new car without a warranty. All you have to do is avoid Honda or wait until they loose the class action law suit. Most to the others are workable. Why are you so pesimistic? Own a dealership gouging Canadians? Everything a person needs to know is either on the manufacture's web sites and http://www.riv.ca/ RIV is very busy these days. But quite a good site. They tell you all the vehicles listed that have issues. If you go to the local dealership and ask, they know exactly what the RIV process is and what any model needs. You can even list registered importers in your area if you want to cut your savings. I know one guy that is so ticked off with Canadian pricing, he offers to his friends to do it for a small fee plus costs. He has hauled up 2 Hummers, 1 Vette and 2 BMWs so far. Me, I only have 2 behind me, a GM Regal and a Pathfinder. The Regal was a low milage, $10,000 US, made in Osawa used. In Calgary I would have paid $18,000 at the time. So I imported. Cost was RIV + $100 for A/C. GST would have to be paid either way but was much less on $10K. > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:18:14 -0300, "David" <java@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > > :Toyota, likely not ... > : > :"Typically" you need to buy a north american made car, for the warranty > to > :be FULLY transferable (there are ways around it, but not getting into > those > :here) > : > :Here is the odd thing: I know that Honda for example has Honda USA , and > :Honda Canada ... both seperate incorporations. Hence they will not honor > :each others warranty. (unless your on holidays and out of country) ... > they > :themselves do this to deter people from buying accross the border. IF you > :buy it in the USA, you must register it in the USA for warranty purposes. > :(and same in Canada) > : > :GM & Ford for example, warranty is 100% valid no matter where you buy it, > :and no matter where you have it registered. > : > :It's just a large conspiracy all the way around.

Ned Kelly (NedKelly@usenetexchange.com) wrote: : On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:14:14 -0300, "Angus" <angus.black@_REMOVE_gmail.com> : wrote: : >"Why Not" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message : >news:OMEPi.18142$1y4.9391@pd7urf2no... : >> Why not? : >Why? : So that more of us can spend our money where we get the best value for our : hard earned dollars, instead of getting chated all the time!! *** Do you mean as like the way you cheat us with your high wages? You are ripping us off. I can get your job done cheaper in the U.S. Yes, let's all sell out Canada. Richard

"David" <java@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:47112d5f$0$14844$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > Not accurate .... > > add 6% duty, + the 100.00 air tax on the us dollar price, then convert it > to Canadian ... then calculate the taxes. There is not a 6% duty on North American made cars. 6% GST yep. Air tax, you pay that on new cars in Canada all the same. The only difference really is RIV fees, about $200. But you saving many thousands, what is a little paperwork?

> > : So that more of us can spend our money where we get the best value for > our > : hard earned dollars, instead of getting chated all the time!! > > *** Do you mean as like the way you cheat us with your high wages? You > are ripping us off. I can get your job done cheaper in the U.S. > > Yes, let's all sell out Canada. > > Richard Oooh, that is a question. Ya struck it on the head with that one, Dick. Down with unions eh???? It's probably only a short term thing. Car prices will have to come into line or everyone will be buying south of the border. Once people start to realize how simple a process it is. It will force Canadian car dealers to take action to regain their business. But presently, it is very obvious that we Canadians are being gouged by our own.

of course, but since when are Toyota's made in the USA ? (maybe I'm just not aware) D "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message news:DebQi.33354$Da.14949@pd7urf1no... > > "David" <java@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:47112d5f$0$14844$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... >> Not accurate .... >> >> add 6% duty, + the 100.00 air tax on the us dollar price, then convert it >> to Canadian ... then calculate the taxes. > > There is not a 6% duty on North American made cars. 6% GST yep. Air tax, > you pay that on new cars in Canada all the same. > > The only difference really is RIV fees, about $200. But you saving many > thousands, what is a little paperwork? >

Hawk (kenhamilgate@accesswave.ca) wrote: : > : So that more of us can spend our money where we get the best value for : > our hard earned dollars, instead of getting chated all the time!! : > : > *** Do you mean as like the way you cheat us with your high wages? You : > are ripping us off. I can get your job done cheaper in the U.S. : > : > Yes, let's all sell out Canada. : > : > Richard : Oooh, that is a question. Ya struck it on the head with that one, Dick. : Down with unions eh???? *** No, but down with Canadians selling out their own country. : It's probably only a short term thing. Car prices will have to come into : line or everyone will be buying south of the border. Once people start to : realize how simple a process it is. It will force Canadian car dealers to : take action to regain their business. But presently, it is very obvious that : we Canadians are being gouged by our own. *** I don't discount that with some items, but when people are buying staples such as meat and eggs outside Canada, then I see that as a serious problem. Richard

Serious (hatespam@nospam.com) wrote: : On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:36:04 GMT, "Hawk" <kenhamilgate@accesswave.ca> : wrote: : :> : So that more of us can spend our money where we get the best value for : :> our hard earned dollars, instead of getting chated all the time!! : :> : :> *** Do you mean as like the way you cheat us with your high wages? You : :> are ripping us off. I can get your job done cheaper in the U.S. : :> : :> Yes, let's all sell out Canada. : :> : :> Richard : It has nothing to do with selling out Canada. I for one don't want to : get ripped off if I have options. There is a difference with being : loyal and being stupid. *** So again, why should we pay your rip-off wages? You are cheating us! : If we could get some prices of products that can be bought at border : towns, say, Cost Cutter that would be awesome. *** If you would accept the same wages as Americans, that would be awesome. Then we would not have to go south of the border. Richard

This savings will only last till US inventory is replenished and the americans buy thier new inventory from china at the new exchange rate and the new prices will be more accurate. "Serious" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:QCTPi.32223$th2.21279@pd7urf3no... > > "David" <java@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:470ff6b9$0$14859$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > : in the last 4 weeks, I have bought the following from the US > : > : A new Truck (Hummer) > : All new Kitchen Appliances (building new home) > : Complete home theater package (high end) > : Plasma TV - 50" Panny, 1080p > : Numerous cables for theater (500ft +) > : > : All in all, doing a quick calculation, I have saved in excess of > 17000.00 (I > : priced everything heavily before buying each item) > : > : I'm all about supporting the local business', but ..... > : > : I had every last piece of it shipped to Calais including the truck, > paid all > : the appropriate duties and taxes ... what more can I say. Thats > 17000.00 > : after my gas to Calais and meals as well :) > : > > Yup, big ticket items and some electronics are cheaper in the US. How > many of us wil ever be able to afford a Navigator or Hummer? >

sharx35 (sharx35@hotmail.com) wrote: : If there wasn't price fixing here in Canada, meat and eggs would be available at a reasonable price. *** Do you happen to have more information of this price fixing? Who fixes the price of eggs, as an example? WHo makes the huge profits from these higher prices? Richard

"Serious" <hatespam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:nie3h3lmk80psobfq79riner4ttlg3525e@4ax.com... > On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:45:30 GMT, "Canuck57" > <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote: > : > :Most but not all honour their warrantee across border. > > Unfortunately, that's not the case. Show me the one's that don't.

"David" <java@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:47114fc4$0$14861$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > of course, but since when are Toyota's made in the USA ? (maybe I'm just > not aware) > > D > > For about the last 25 years or so. My Toyota Corolla was built in Ontario. My Toyota Tacoma was built in California.

"Serious" <hatespam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:pab3h39ga88pfcscv9cvfvfm39ujocv2uj@4ax.com... > On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:14:20 GMT, "Canuck57" > <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote: > :> can > :> : imagine that $20,000 more in Canada is all profit. > : > :Toyota.ca Corolla LE MSRP $21,900 > :Toyota.com Corolla LE MSRP $15,615 > : > :Savings $6285 plus the $879 you avoid in GST/PST. Over $7000 on a basic > :car. > : > :US also usually has better incentives. > > And you probably can negotiate a deal on a Toyota which you can't in > BC, but of course, you have no warranty (if not mistaken you can't go > to the USA to get it fixed as the warranty is void for you not being a > US resident). You are wrong about the warranty. I don't know where you are getting this idea. Toyota US warranty covers vehicles in Canada. I asked our local Toyota dealer.

"Jeff" <jeff260z@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47100d64$0$14834$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... >A new Toyota Tacoma 4 door, 4x4 TRD package here in Moncton is $50,000. In >Maine the same truck is $30,000. ---snip--- I don't know where you are getting your numbers. A Toyota Tacoma 4 door, 4x4 TRD with Auto trans is $39,080.00 in Canada. The same truck in Maine is $32,244.00. Still, $6836.00 + tax is still worth the trip for me. I drove from Moncton to Halifax to get my 2005 Tacoma just because the dealer in Moncton was too stupid to get me a truck.

"David" <java@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message news:47160921$0$14852$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > If you have the vehicle shipped on a truck the day the deal is done, in > most all cases you dont have to pay state tax ... but it must be shipped > immediately. Driving it away is very different ... > > Have you ever bought a car from the US, or are you guessing? > > D > Does the vehicle have to be shipped to Canada or just out of the State it was purchased in? I haven't bought a vehicle from the US, yet. My brother-in-law bought two ATVs from Maine back in January. He did not have to pay State tax. He signed an affidavit saying the ATVs were going out of State. I know another guy that bought an ATV out of Michigan. He had to pay State tax. I realize ATVs and cars may have different regulations. We have been told, by a car dealer in New Hampsire, that new vehicles have to be registered in State. The way around it was to buy a demo unit because demos are registered to the dealer. Basically the same as buying a used vehicle. It's an interesting subject. I guess the thing to remember is that the rules change from State to State.

You just need to ship it out of state..... I have bought from Flordia, Illinois, Tenessee and Texas .. all the same case. Your New Hampshire information is incorrect ... A good friend has bought 2 brand new corvettes there in the last 6 months (sold the first one he brought back) ... he paid no state tax at all, just had it shipped from the dealers parking lot to Calais. D "Angus" <angus.black@_REMOVE_gmail.com> wrote in message news:471614f0$0$14833$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... > > "David" <java@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message > news:47160921$0$14852$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net... >> If you have the vehicle shipped on a truck the day the deal is done, in >> most all cases you dont have to pay state tax ... but it must be shipped >> immediately. Driving it away is very different ... >> >> Have you ever bought a car from the US, or are you guessing? >> >> D >> > > Does the vehicle have to be shipped to Canada or just out of the State it > was purchased in? > > I haven't bought a vehicle from the US, yet. My brother-in-law bought two > ATVs from Maine back in January. He did not have to pay State tax. He > signed an affidavit saying the ATVs were going out of State. I know > another guy that bought an ATV out of Michigan. He had to pay State tax. > I realize ATVs and cars may have different regulations. > We have been told, by a car dealer in New Hampsire, that new vehicles have > to be registered in State. The way around it was to buy a demo unit > because demos are registered to the dealer. Basically the same as buying > a used vehicle. > > It's an interesting subject. I guess the thing to remember is that the > rules change from State to State. >