"Adrian K." <adrian-ng@akws.ca> wrote in message news:awHYi.11141$8S5.6202@edtnps82... > These cars were made last year when costs were higher (labour, resources, > shipping, etc), thus lowering Canadian prices would make the 2007 models a > loss for the company. Sounds like good logic, until you realize that the exact same cars are ALREADY priced lower in the US, even if they were made here.

In article <bKQYi.190209$Da.100721@pd7urf1no>, Who? <Me@hotmail.com> wrote: >It seems to me that if the cars were made in Canada based on Canadian costs, >then the price should really be going up in the USA given that their dollar >is worthless (oops forgot the space) rather than coming down in Canada? The problem is that the 25% increase in the value of the Canadian dollar has come within a matter of months, rather than years. Manufacturers and distributors simply cannot keep up. If a Honda dealer paid $30K for a vehicle ordered in June and delivered this week, and that vehicle now sells to American dealers for $25K, the Canadian dealer is screwed. The only way he can sell the damned thing is at a massive loss. To suggest, as Grosvomit does, that this is some sort of massive scam, is simply to concede that he knows absolutely nothing about the economics involved. The financial fallout from the unbelieveably rapid decline of the USD will be felt in Canada for years. From the consumers' point of view, our only recourse for big ticket items is either not to buy, or to buy in the States in the hope of saving a few bucks. 12 months from now, it will have sorted itself out, and Canadian retailers will probably have lost millions through no fault of their own. -- "People want to know all the facts whatever they are true or not." (Kurt Knoll, Kitimat's Leading Revisionist Scholar and all-round moron.) The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

I'd rather still sell a car for a bit of a loss, than not sell one at all. Keep the dollars in our own country and support our economy, not the U.S. Where I work, if I sell something for a little bit of a loss (say I sell an item that cost me $2.00 for $1.50, it's still a $1.50 more than if I had sold nothing). It's far better for me to make a negative gross and make a sale, then make no sale and no gross at all. If they can buy an item at my store and I sell it to them for a loss, then they will most likely make a residual purchase whereby I make money, so it usually pays off. Same concept behind Superstore and Walmart. They sell groceries cheaper than most places for a negative gross, but they make it up in other residual sales (toys, clothes, etc). So for a car manufacturer, it still makes sense to take a hit on the inital sale price, because the customer may end up buying an extended warranty, protection package, accessories, etc. which is all stuff they make money on. Also, they would most likely get the warranty repairs for a Canadian vehicle because lots of times, they won't honor the warranty for U.S. bought vehicles, thus the customer is forced to go to a private garage, or back to the U.S. for warranty work.

Most large retail companies in Canada are American owned and the goods purchased with an American dollar, so if they are sold for a Canadian dollar it is a win for them -- Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous "Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmcvay@shell.vex.net> wrote in message news:13j7p6v4srlnm7b@corp.supernews.com... > In article <bKQYi.190209$Da.100721@pd7urf1no>, Who? <Me@hotmail.com> wrote: > >It seems to me that if the cars were made in Canada based on Canadian costs, > >then the price should really be going up in the USA given that their dollar > >is worthless (oops forgot the space) rather than coming down in Canada? > > The problem is that the 25% increase in the value of the Canadian dollar has > come within a matter of months, rather than years. Manufacturers and distributors simply > cannot keep up. > > If a Honda dealer paid $30K for a vehicle ordered in June and delivered this week, > and that vehicle now sells to American dealers for $25K, the Canadian dealer is screwed. > The only way he can sell the damned thing is at a massive loss. > > To suggest, as Grosvomit does, that this is some sort of massive scam, is simply to > concede that he knows absolutely nothing about the economics involved. > > The financial fallout from the unbelieveably rapid decline of the USD will be felt in > Canada for years. > > From the consumers' point of view, our only recourse for big ticket items is either not to > buy, or to buy in the States in the hope of saving a few bucks. 12 months from now, it > will have sorted itself out, and Canadian retailers will probably have lost millions > through no fault of their own. > > -- > "People want to know all the facts whatever they are true > or not." (Kurt Knoll, Kitimat's Leading Revisionist Scholar > and all-round moron.) > The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

"happy" <me@myself.I> wrote in message news:13j82rhrtqp9e71@corp.supernews.com... > I'd rather still sell a car for a bit of a loss, than not sell one at all. > Keep the dollars in our own country and support our economy, not the U.S. > Where I work, if I sell something for a little bit of a loss (say I sell > an item that cost me $2.00 for $1.50, it's still a $1.50 more than if I > had sold nothing). It's far better for me to make a negative gross and > make a sale, then make no sale and no gross at all. If they can buy an > item at my store and I sell it to them for a loss, then they will most > likely make a residual purchase whereby I make money, so it usually pays > off. Same concept behind Superstore and Walmart. They sell groceries > cheaper than most places for a negative gross, but they make it up in > other residual sales (toys, clothes, etc). > > So for a car manufacturer, it still makes sense to take a hit on the > inital sale price, because the customer may end up buying an extended > warranty, protection package, accessories, etc. which is all stuff they > make money on. Also, they would most likely get the warranty repairs for a > Canadian vehicle because lots of times, they won't honor the warranty for > U.S. bought vehicles, thus the customer is forced to go to a private > garage, or back to > the U.S. for warranty work. Which can create a headache as well. Legally, if you take your car back to the US for warranty work, and customs decides to rule the work could have been done in Canada (doesn't matter if you would have been billed for it), the whole car would be subject to import duties. Realistically, they wouldn't be checking for it very often, and historically haven't, but if they ask what the purpose of the visit to the AUS was, and the driver blurts out "new transmission on warranty", you get zapped.

That's a minor point I was trying to make. I don't actually think people are going to go back the the U.S. for warranty. It could happen, but likelihood, almost zero. Someone may have their car checked out while they're in the U.S. for another reason, but not specifically go there just for that. The whole point is that a sale's still a sale.

"happy" <me@myself.I> wrote in message news:13j82rhrtqp9e71@corp.supernews.com... > I'd rather still sell a car for a bit of a loss, than not sell one at all. > Keep the dollars in our own country and support our economy, not the U.S. > Where I work, if I sell something for a little bit of a loss (say I sell > an item that cost me $2.00 for $1.50, it's still a $1.50 more than if I > had sold nothing). It's far better for me to make a negative gross and > make a sale, then make no sale and no gross at all. If they can buy an > item at my store and I sell it to them for a loss, then they will most > likely make a residual purchase whereby I make money, so it usually pays > off. Same concept behind Superstore and Walmart. They sell groceries > cheaper than most places for a negative gross, but they make it up in > other residual sales (toys, clothes, etc). > > So for a car manufacturer, it still makes sense to take a hit on the > inital sale price, because the customer may end up buying an extended > warranty, protection package, accessories, etc. which is all stuff they > make money on. Also, they would most likely get the warranty repairs for a > Canadian vehicle because lots of times, they won't honor the warranty for > U.S. bought vehicles, thus the customer is forced to go to a private > garage, or back to the U.S. for warranty work. The warranty issue is BS. In the owners manual it states quite clearly that if you are in North America, warranty can be performed at ANY AUTHORIZED DEALER. Now the manufacturers and dealers are making it difficult to get this service on purpose to discourage cross border buying. Legally, they ca't do this. Until someone takes them to court and makes a stink about it, they'll continue to do it. I know this because I've worked in dealerships for over twenty years and have repaired plenty of US customer vehicles UNDER WARRANTY. The warranty is in force regardless of where the vehicle is located on planet earth, it's just a matter of going to an authorized dealer, or, if that isn't possible, getting emergency repairs done and then seeking reimbursement. It's a simple case of smoke and mirrors deception on the part of the dealers in collusion with the manufacturers.

"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:ZvK2j.7282$HH2.1094@edtnps82... > Yup, why buy a made in Canada Honda, when you could buy a made in USA > peice of shit chevy. > > Its not just honda and toyota, all car companies are selling there cars > for far more in Canada then in the states. Same as gas stations and gas, same as clothing stores etc. etc. They all want to get their share of taxpayers dollars and they all want to be millionaires all with the governments help.