Group: a.bsu.religion


Subject: TRUTH ON TRIAL 2
From: (1Wit)
Date: 11/13/2007 1:51:25 AM
The forth commandment is, keep the Sabbath. Many self righteous men use the excuse that the Sabbath does not apply to Christians, If the covenant commandments do not apply to you, the covenant does not apply to you. 1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, Some make the excuse that Jesus did not repeat this law. Actually it was mentioned in Mat 24:20. The Catholics only selected four, of over thirty gospels. Jesus may have been more specific in one of those. With a new covenant, also comes the terms of that covenant. The only terms or change in the new covenant commandments, was the place where they were written. If God did not specifically tell you to change the day or the way it is observed, it is the doctrine of Men. Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. You may think that these hireling shepherds are devout men. They are just about as devout, as the men that killed the prophets and Jesus. Mat 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. The forth commandment came directly from God. Written with the finger of God. Therefore, good for spiritual food. Zion is the Mountain of God that Jesus founded. A requirement for coming to the Mountain is to observe the Sabbath. Isa 56:6-7 "every one that keepeth the Sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my Holy Mountain," The spiritual Mountain of God is exclusive to the last days. From Jesus to the end. If you deny the Sabbath of God, he will deny you the Sabbath you desire. That Thousand years reign with Jesus. Rev 20:6. Which means you will take part in the second resurrection, and miss the thousand years. Those of the first resurrection, will rule over those of the second resurrection. There is a discrepancy in what you call truth, and what God calls truth. A false doctrine will only last as long as there are people, gullible enough to believe it. Check out those that you call leaders. Did they say to observe the Sabbath? If not, they are liars and can not know God, or the ways of God. Go clear back to those called the first Fathers. Did they deny the Sabbath? If so, they are liars. And then comes you. You try to learn about God from them, and they can not know God, according to 1 John 2:4. Of course you can just scratch out this verse, or ignore it, and wallow in your own self righteousness. They entered into the Most Holy Place and scratched out the forth commandment. Isa 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, BROKEN the everlasting covenant. What is truth and justice? Jer 31:32. The children of Israel did not continue in the covenant. So they were cast off. Then come's you. You claim that, God will never cast you away. Are you something special? That's arrogance! If God did not specifically say to change the covenant, it is the doctrine of men. For God to be fair and just, he must also cast you away. Jer 7:10 and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations? The people don't know all the abominations they commit, because they have followed man and not God. Righteousness is doing things right, the way God said to do them right. Isa 51:7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in WHOSE HEART is my law; If the law is not written in your heart, you are not part of the New Covenant. Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it. Think about FEW. Few means a small amount. If everyone is doing things wrong, you may be, one of the FEW, that does things right. Righteousness is doing things right, the way God said to do them right. This is how God works. There will be a FEW that come to the mountain. The way to the mountain is through the court of the tabernacle. When you are chosen, or elected to enter in, is when you receive guides. Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. Actually, this is by telepathy. You could not make it without them. Zec 8:21 And the inhabitants of (a church) shall go to another, saying, Let us go speedily to pray before the LORD, and to seek the LORD of hosts: I will go also. They shall seek the Lord in the New Jerusalem, which is on the Holy Mountain. for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. First comes your trial by fire. This will probably be the most devastating experience of your life. This last from Pentecost to Atonement. Twenty four, seven. This is to prepare you for the real battle to come. Then in a couple of months after atonement, you will begin the battle for real. Your spiritual life depends on you winning. This battle will last till passover. At passover the kingdom of evil will throw up a wall to stop you. You are given one week to penetrate this wall. If you fail, in the next month you will be given another chance. Two chances are all you get. Friction between good and evil produces fire. You must become the seed that penetrates the wall. This is why it is likened to conception and birth. This is all spiritual. When you penetrate this wall is when you can set foot on the Mountain. Male and female are counted the same in the first year. The whole process takes about three and a half years for males. All those that make it to the mountain, are the elect. At least you will know what is happening to you. 1 Pet 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, Small references are given by the prophets. Job gives the most. Even the attempted possession by an evil spirit. Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, Heb 13:5 for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. So if you want to meet Jesus, come to the mountain. But you have to go through hell to get there. Brought down to the sides of the pit. From the beginning to the end, everything is a trial. "YOU ARE IN TRIAL, CONSTANTLY! At the end of your first year at Pentecost you will move to the second level of the fish. Males only. This is the river of Knowledge. Also called carnally, the Nile. Near the head waters you will pass to the right or the left. On the left, is the way of Prophets. To Lake Victoria. And the Priest go right, to the Mountains of the Moon. At Pentecost again, you will move to the mouth of the rivers Tigris and Euphrates. These run parallel. Peace and understanding. Think spiritual. This is the only way to the Mountain of the living God. Isa 2:3 and he will teach us of his ways, Or you can stay where you are and learn false doctrine from people that do not know God, nor can they know the ways of God. They can't tell you about the court of the tabernacle. All they can show you is the carnal. They are all covenant breakers. They can not comprehend that " the hand is stretched out still" only so many times. That is to say. The kingdom is at hand. They will be standing around scratching their heads saying. Jer 8:20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved. They may never recover from the devastation of the Passover. Don't let ANYONE take away your rightful place on the Mountain of God. Study for yourself, with the spirit as your guide. THE FIRST MESSENGER

Subject: TRUTH ON TRIAL 2
From: Truth b Told
Date: 12/3/2007 12:27:22 AM
I was about to post some errors in your posting but after reading this completely and reading the first "truth on trial 1" I just have a question. What organization are you being taught under? Which bible are you using? Where did you receive these teachings? RESTORING THE FORGOTTEN HERITAGE TO THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/ <1Wit> wrote in message news:VP2dnVnZL9G_jqTanZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@kans.com... > The forth commandment is, keep the Sabbath. Many self righteous men use > the excuse > that the Sabbath does not apply to Christians, If the covenant > commandments do not > apply to you, the covenant does not apply to you. 1 John 2:4 He that > saith, I know > him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, Some make the excuse > that Jesus did > not repeat this law. Actually it was mentioned in Mat 24:20. The Catholics > only > selected four, of over thirty gospels. Jesus may have been more specific > in one of > those. With a new covenant, also comes the terms of that covenant. The > only terms or > change in the new covenant commandments, was the place where they were > written. If God > did not specifically tell you to change the day or the way it is observed, > it is the > doctrine of Men. Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for > doctrines the > commandments of men. You may think that these hireling shepherds are > devout men. They > are just about as devout, as the men that killed the prophets and Jesus. > Mat 4:4 Man > shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of > the mouth of > God. The forth commandment came directly from God. Written with the finger > of God. > Therefore, good for spiritual food. > > Zion is the Mountain of God that Jesus founded. A requirement for coming > to the > Mountain is to observe the Sabbath. Isa 56:6-7 "every one that keepeth the > Sabbath > from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring > to my Holy > Mountain," The spiritual Mountain of God is exclusive to the last days. > From Jesus to > the end. If you deny the Sabbath of God, he will deny you the Sabbath you > desire. That > Thousand years reign with Jesus. Rev 20:6. Which means you will take part > in the > second resurrection, and miss the thousand years. Those of the first > resurrection, > will rule over those of the second resurrection. There is a discrepancy in > what you > call truth, and what God calls truth. > > A false doctrine will only last as long as there are people, gullible > enough to > believe it. Check out those that you call leaders. Did they say to observe > the > Sabbath? If not, they are liars and can not know God, or the ways of God. > Go clear > back to those called the first Fathers. Did they deny the Sabbath? If so, > they are > liars. And then comes you. You try to learn about God from them, and they > can not know > God, according to 1 John 2:4. Of course you can just scratch out this > verse, or ignore > it, and wallow in your own self righteousness. They entered into the Most > Holy Place > and scratched out the forth commandment. Isa 24:5 The earth also is > defiled under the > inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the > ordinance, > BROKEN the everlasting covenant. > > What is truth and justice? Jer 31:32. The children of Israel did not > continue in the > covenant. So they were cast off. Then come's you. You claim that, God will > never cast > you away. Are you something special? That's arrogance! If God did not > specifically say > to change the covenant, it is the doctrine of men. For God to be fair and > just, he > must also cast you away. Jer 7:10 and say, We are delivered to do all > these > abominations? The people don't know all the abominations they commit, > because they > have followed man and not God. Righteousness is doing things right, the > way God said > to do them right. Isa 51:7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, > the people in > WHOSE HEART is my law; If the law is not written in your heart, you are > not part of > the New Covenant. Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will > make with the > house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in > their inward > parts, and write it in THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall > be my > people. > Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth > unto life, > and FEW there be that find it. Think about FEW. Few means a small amount. > If everyone > is doing things wrong, you may be, one of the FEW, that does things right. > Righteousness is doing things right, the way God said to do them right. > This is how > God works. There will be a FEW that come to the mountain. The way to the > mountain is > through the court of the tabernacle. When you are chosen, or elected to > enter in, is > when you receive guides. Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word > behind thee, > saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, > and when ye > turn to the left. Actually, this is by telepathy. You could not make it > without them. > Zec 8:21 And the inhabitants of (a church) shall go to another, saying, > Let us go > speedily to pray before the LORD, and to seek the LORD of hosts: I will go > also. They > shall seek the Lord in the New Jerusalem, which is on the Holy Mountain. > for out of > Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. > > First comes your trial by fire. This will probably be the most devastating > experience > of your life. This last from Pentecost to Atonement. Twenty four, seven. > This is to > prepare you for the real battle to come. Then in a couple of months after > atonement, > you will begin the battle for real. Your spiritual life depends on you > winning. This > battle will last till passover. At passover the kingdom of evil will throw > up a wall > to stop you. You are given one week to penetrate this wall. If you fail, > in the next > month you will be given another chance. Two chances are all you get. > Friction between > good and evil produces fire. You must become the seed that penetrates the > wall. This > is why it is likened to conception and birth. This is all spiritual. When > you > penetrate this wall is when you can set foot on the Mountain. Male and > female are > counted the same in the first year. The whole process takes about three > and a half > years for males. All those that make it to the mountain, are the elect. > > At least you will know what is happening to you. 1 Pet 4:12 Beloved, > think it not > strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, Small references > are given by > the prophets. Job gives the most. Even the attempted possession by an evil > spirit. Heb > 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living > God, the > heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, Heb 13:5 for > he hath > said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. So if you want to meet > Jesus, come to > the mountain. But you have to go through hell to get there. Brought down > to the sides > of the pit. From the beginning to the end, everything is a trial. "YOU ARE > IN TRIAL, > CONSTANTLY! At the end of your first year at Pentecost you will move to > the second > level of the fish. Males only. This is the river of Knowledge. Also called > carnally, > the Nile. Near the head waters you will pass to the right or the left. On > the left, is > the way of Prophets. To Lake Victoria. And the Priest go right, to the > Mountains of > the Moon. At Pentecost again, you will move to the mouth of the rivers > Tigris and > Euphrates. These run parallel. Peace and understanding. Think spiritual. > > This is the only way to the Mountain of the living God. Isa 2:3 and he > will teach us > of his ways, Or you can stay where you are and learn false doctrine from > people that > do not know God, nor can they know the ways of God. They can't tell you > about the > court of the tabernacle. All they can show you is the carnal. They are all > covenant > breakers. They can not comprehend that " the hand is stretched out still" > only so many > times. That is to say. The kingdom is at hand. They will be standing > around scratching > their heads saying. Jer 8:20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and > we are not > saved. They may never recover from the devastation of the Passover. Don't > let ANYONE > take away your rightful place on the Mountain of God. Study for yourself, > with the > spirit as your guide. > THE FIRST MESSENGER > > >

Subject: TRUTH ON TRIAL 2
From: (1Wit)
Date: 12/4/2007 12:47:47 AM
"Truth b Told" <mailbox007@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >I was about to post some errors in your posting but after reading this >completely and reading the first >"truth on trial 1" I just have a question. What organization are you being >taught under? >Which bible are you using? Where did you receive these teachings? I mostly use the KJV. Because most other people use it to. Because it come's free with bible programs. No organization, unless you call the tabernacle an organization.

Subject: TRUTH ON TRIAL 2
From: Truth b Told
Date: 12/9/2007 8:26:02 AM
> Zion is the Mountain of God that Jesus founded. where did you see this? > Thousand years reign with Jesus. Rev 20:6. Which means you will take part > in the > second resurrection, and miss the thousand years. Those of the first > resurrection, > will rule over those of the second resurrection. The people of the second resuection will be judged and thrown into the lake of fire. > What is truth and justice? Jer 31:32. The children of Israel did not > continue in the > covenant. So they were cast off. The children of Israel were not cast away. Where did you get that? they were cursed until the father brings them back into the land promised to their fathers. Lev 26:44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God. Isa 41:8 But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend. Isa 41:9 Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away. I didnt understand the other teachings. I have never heard of anything like that. I would be careful with those teachings if I were you. " the hand is stretched out still" does not mean salvation is at hand, but that the father is angry and working against you. usually to destroy you because you still havent learned your lesson. -- RESTORING THE FORGOTTEN HERITAGE TO THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/ <1Wit> wrote in message news:VP2dnVnZL9G_jqTanZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d@kans.com... > The forth commandment is, keep the Sabbath. Many self righteous men use > the excuse > that the Sabbath does not apply to Christians, If the covenant > commandments do not > apply to you, the covenant does not apply to you. 1 John 2:4 He that > saith, I know > him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, Some make the excuse > that Jesus did > not repeat this law. Actually it was mentioned in Mat 24:20. The Catholics > only > selected four, of over thirty gospels. Jesus may have been more specific > in one of > those. With a new covenant, also comes the terms of that covenant. The > only terms or > change in the new covenant commandments, was the place where they were > written. If God > did not specifically tell you to change the day or the way it is observed, > it is the > doctrine of Men. Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for > doctrines the > commandments of men. You may think that these hireling shepherds are > devout men. They > are just about as devout, as the men that killed the prophets and Jesus. > Mat 4:4 Man > shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of > the mouth of > God. The forth commandment came directly from God. Written with the finger > of God. > Therefore, good for spiritual food. > > Zion is the Mountain of God that Jesus founded. A requirement for coming > to the > Mountain is to observe the Sabbath. Isa 56:6-7 "every one that keepeth the > Sabbath > from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring > to my Holy > Mountain," The spiritual Mountain of God is exclusive to the last days. > From Jesus to > the end. If you deny the Sabbath of God, he will deny you the Sabbath you > desire. That > Thousand years reign with Jesus. Rev 20:6. Which means you will take part > in the > second resurrection, and miss the thousand years. Those of the first > resurrection, > will rule over those of the second resurrection. There is a discrepancy in > what you > call truth, and what God calls truth. > > A false doctrine will only last as long as there are people, gullible > enough to > believe it. Check out those that you call leaders. Did they say to observe > the > Sabbath? If not, they are liars and can not know God, or the ways of God. > Go clear > back to those called the first Fathers. Did they deny the Sabbath? If so, > they are > liars. And then comes you. You try to learn about God from them, and they > can not know > God, according to 1 John 2:4. Of course you can just scratch out this > verse, or ignore > it, and wallow in your own self righteousness. They entered into the Most > Holy Place > and scratched out the forth commandment. Isa 24:5 The earth also is > defiled under the > inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the > ordinance, > BROKEN the everlasting covenant. > > What is truth and justice? Jer 31:32. The children of Israel did not > continue in the > covenant. So they were cast off. Then come's you. You claim that, God will > never cast > you away. Are you something special? That's arrogance! If God did not > specifically say > to change the covenant, it is the doctrine of men. For God to be fair and > just, he > must also cast you away. Jer 7:10 and say, We are delivered to do all > these > abominations? The people don't know all the abominations they commit, > because they > have followed man and not God. Righteousness is doing things right, the > way God said > to do them right. Isa 51:7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, > the people in > WHOSE HEART is my law; If the law is not written in your heart, you are > not part of > the New Covenant. Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will > make with the > house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in > their inward > parts, and write it in THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall > be my > people. > Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth > unto life, > and FEW there be that find it. Think about FEW. Few means a small amount. > If everyone > is doing things wrong, you may be, one of the FEW, that does things right. > Righteousness is doing things right, the way God said to do them right. > This is how > God works. There will be a FEW that come to the mountain. The way to the > mountain is > through the court of the tabernacle. When you are chosen, or elected to > enter in, is > when you receive guides. Isa 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word > behind thee, > saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, > and when ye > turn to the left. Actually, this is by telepathy. You could not make it > without them. > Zec 8:21 And the inhabitants of (a church) shall go to another, saying, > Let us go > speedily to pray before the LORD, and to seek the LORD of hosts: I will go > also. They > shall seek the Lord in the New Jerusalem, which is on the Holy Mountain. > for out of > Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. > > First comes your trial by fire. This will probably be the most devastating > experience > of your life. This last from Pentecost to Atonement. Twenty four, seven. > This is to > prepare you for the real battle to come. Then in a couple of months after > atonement, > you will begin the battle for real. Your spiritual life depends on you > winning. This > battle will last till passover. At passover the kingdom of evil will throw > up a wall > to stop you. You are given one week to penetrate this wall. If you fail, > in the next > month you will be given another chance. Two chances are all you get. > Friction between > good and evil produces fire. You must become the seed that penetrates the > wall. This > is why it is likened to conception and birth. This is all spiritual. When > you > penetrate this wall is when you can set foot on the Mountain. Male and > female are > counted the same in the first year. The whole process takes about three > and a half > years for males. All those that make it to the mountain, are the elect. > > At least you will know what is happening to you. 1 Pet 4:12 Beloved, > think it not > strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, Small references > are given by > the prophets. Job gives the most. Even the attempted possession by an evil > spirit. Heb > 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living > God, the > heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, Heb 13:5 for > he hath > said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. So if you want to meet > Jesus, come to > the mountain. But you have to go through hell to get there. Brought down > to the sides > of the pit. From the beginning to the end, everything is a trial. "YOU ARE > IN TRIAL, > CONSTANTLY! At the end of your first year at Pentecost you will move to > the second > level of the fish. Males only. This is the river of Knowledge. Also called > carnally, > the Nile. Near the head waters you will pass to the right or the left. On > the left, is > the way of Prophets. To Lake Victoria. And the Priest go right, to the > Mountains of > the Moon. At Pentecost again, you will move to the mouth of the rivers > Tigris and > Euphrates. These run parallel. Peace and understanding. Think spiritual. > > This is the only way to the Mountain of the living God. Isa 2:3 and he > will teach us > of his ways, Or you can stay where you are and learn false doctrine from > people that > do not know God, nor can they know the ways of God. They can't tell you > about the > court of the tabernacle. All they can show you is the carnal. They are all > covenant > breakers. They can not comprehend that " the hand is stretched out still" > only so many > times. That is to say. The kingdom is at hand. They will be standing > around scratching > their heads saying. Jer 8:20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and > we are not > saved. They may never recover from the devastation of the Passover. Don't > let ANYONE > take away your rightful place on the Mountain of God. Study for yourself, > with the > spirit as your guide. > THE FIRST MESSENGER > > >